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02-04-2013, 10:03 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles | | | Whether live or pre-recorded or some degree of both, hey, it's kinda cool there was a bass solo "featured" for a moment!
But yeah, somebody dropped the ball on that part of the broadcast mix... | 
02-04-2013, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pbass2 Whether live or pre-recorded or some degree of both, hey, it's kinda cool there was a bass solo "featured" for a moment!
But yeah, somebody dropped the ball on that part of the broadcast mix... | ^ this is how I felt too
Now the general public knows for a fact that bass guitars do not actually produce any sound and are purely on stage for apperance. 
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02-04-2013, 10:11 AM
| | | | Past Super Bowl Half-time Shows were prerecorded the day or two before. What the TV audience gets to see is the prepackaged event, that was edited together - like a music video. The arena audience gets the live performance with pre-recorded audio. The lead vocals were either live, pre-recorded, or (most likely) a combination for the arena audience.
The risk of a screw up can absolutely NOT be tolerated in television.
Concerning yesterday's show, with all the video incorporated, ultra fast cuts - it was done earlier in the week.
No big deal. It's television. | 
02-04-2013, 10:13 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Chicago | | | wouldn't know. To me, it's just one more day closer to baseball season.
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02-04-2013, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike in Chicago wouldn't know. To me, it's just one more day closer to baseball season. | Pitchers and catchers report Tuesday, Feb. 12!  | 
02-04-2013, 10:17 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles | | | On a related note, I thought Alicia killed it. "I thought her Star Spangled..." was awesome. That was definitely NOT phoned in. Had some rawness to it.
And even though she certainly did some vocal "riffing", she's not over-the-top with it, squeezing 20 notes in between every note of the melody like so many RnB singers would... | 
02-04-2013, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rockchalkbass What is so entertaining about watching someone pretend to play music? That may be even more tedious than watching people pretend to wrestle. | I believe they were really referring to the logistics of getting all those people & gear from the truck, to the field, setting it all up, hitting the playback machine, watching the "performance", tearing it all down, getting the people & gear back into the truck, all in 12 minutes. If you think about THAT part of it, it is pretty incredible.
As far as the performance goes, I can't comment because I didn't watch it. I'm sure everyone on the stage was a pro and they have the resumes to back it up. Maybe it was a live performance, I dunno? My only reason for mentioning playback machines and "performance", is that is S.O.P. for big events(halftime shows, presidential inaugurations, etc). I'd guess that most of the musicians in the groups that do those events probably hate faking it, but if they recorded the part anyway, that's a bit less lame.
Until singers stop forgetting lyrics and bass amps, guitar amps, and wireless mics stop malfunctioning, this is how iss gon' be...BTW, I still wanna know, did Lance Armstrong win? 
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02-04-2013, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw I caught it real quick and saw that it was an EBMM Stealth but that's as far as I got.
On a related note, the guitarist probably should have put a little more effort into her lead tone than how she looked with those sparklers shooting off the headstock and body point. Her tone was awful. And she was playing a Jackson RR1 since we're talking about what the bassist played. | I assumed all the instruments were pre-recorded and played back through the PA. Maybe I'm wrong. | 
02-04-2013, 10:23 AM
| | | | TV sound guys are usually not too good at mixing live bands, even otherwise really good ones. Just watch the music on Good Morning America- missed cues, often some instruments entirely left out of the mix, even when soloing! Uneven, unmusical mixes abound, usually drum and vocal heavy with little else. Yuck. Now the Grammies last year, they had a someone who knew how to mix a live band for TV doing that. Makes sense since that was a "music first" event. But for most people, even many in other branches of the entertainment industry, the music is entirely secondary. Most listeners/tv watchers have no clue at all.
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02-04-2013, 10:30 AM
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02-04-2013, 11:00 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: White Plains | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Stick_Player Past Super Bowl Half-time Shows were prerecorded the day or two before. What the TV audience gets to see is the prepackaged event, that was edited together - like a music video. The arena audience gets the live performance with pre-recorded audio. The lead vocals were either live, pre-recorded, or (most likely) a combination for the arena audience.
The risk of a screw up can absolutely NOT be tolerated in television.
Concerning yesterday's show, with all the video incorporated, ultra fast cuts - it was done earlier in the week.
No big deal. It's television. | So what about Superbowl 38 and all of the backlash in caused, along with the whole tape delay thing. Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxstarke I assumed all the instruments were pre-recorded and played back through the PA. Maybe I'm wrong. | Again, I don't care when it was recorded. I don't care who was responsible for the sound. I don't care if they actually played. I don't care if Steve Vai did the leads parts in his home studio last year.
The lead tone still sucked...
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02-04-2013, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by autodidact | Very solid playing, I went further and looked at other videos that she is featured in....as I said solid playing but that's it.
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02-04-2013, 01:18 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Slidell, LA | | | Guys it was not pre-recorded, it was live. Do any of you guys not play drums? When the they showed the drummer, are her fills were exactly matching what was coming out. You know how hard it is reproduce that to the exact with the exact feel? Also, the half time show wasn't pre recorded. Where the heck you get that from? I know people that work at the Super Dome. Did they secrectly go in and record it and play it on tv during halftime? That sounds dumb. She knew what cameras would be where and when because THEY'VE BEEN REHEARSING FOR MONTHS. It's not that simple to understand. When you have months and and unlimited budget to prepare for a 15 minute concert, it can't help but be perfect. However, the sound guy should be fired. Beyonce's mic was hotter that the other two girls and the bass solo was mudding.
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02-04-2013, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by autodidact | Hot. | 
02-04-2013, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SolarMan Although she seems technically proficient, I notice a total lack of feeling or emotion in her playing. Dry and stale (IMO).
She does have the right look, however. | She plays awesome so what's you pt? Do you think doing backflips on stage makes you a better bass player? This lady has talent. What kind of emotion should she show? I've seen terrible bass players show emotion and they still sounded terrible. I would pay her to do studio work any day.
This guy showed to much emotion but still sucked. He sounds good in a band but this is beyond terrible. Now, which bass player would you hire? Now, I do know who this is. So don't come with I don't know music. However, none of his songs where difficult. Maybe his age is catching up to him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lid4mMad8o
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02-04-2013, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by autodidact | She shreads and is a total fox! Nice. | 
02-04-2013, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tewest86 Do any of you guys not play drums? | I don't play drums. Are bass players supposed to play drums too? | 
02-04-2013, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tewest86 Guys it was not pre-recorded, it was live. Do any of you guys not play drums? When the they showed the drummer, are her fills were exactly matching what was coming out. You know how hard it is reproduce that to the exact with the exact feel? Also, the half time show wasn't pre recorded. Where the heck you get that from? I know people that work at the Super Dome. Did they secrectly go in and record it and play it on tv during halftime? That sounds dumb. She knew what cameras would be where and when because THEY'VE BEEN REHEARSING FOR MONTHS. It's not that simple to understand. When you have months and and unlimited budget to prepare for a 15 minute concert, it can't help but be perfect. However, the sound guy should be fired. Beyonce's mic was hotter that the other two girls and the bass solo was mudding. | Point 1- Yeah, it could very well have been pre-recorded. They've been doing that for years...what planet have you been on?
Point 2- Sounds dumb? We should ignore that, but anyone who thinks that they don't pre-record alot of stuff you see and hear on TV, isn't being realistic. Ask Beyonce about that inauguration thing...
Point 3- If you manage to get gear that NEVER malfunctions under any circumstances so you can always pull off LIVE, INTERNATIONAL events, then I salute you, because I've seen and been victim of gear that quit on me right before a show and during a show.
Maybe it was a live show, maybe it wasn't. Like I said earlier, I didn't watch it, so I can't say one way or the other, but history is probably not on your side...
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02-04-2013, 02:06 PM
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02-04-2013, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in Chicago wouldn't know. To me, it's just one more day closer to baseball season. | I LOVE a good basketball team, that emphasizes ball movement and gets good shots off.
But, with baseball season comes warmer weather, an overall happier season, and for whatever reason I play bass better. I dunno. But I'm way happier in the spring & summer, even though I might me doing demolition in 110 degree weather...
By the way- If the SeaHawks make the Superbowl- Loaded has got to play.
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