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Old 12-13-2011, 04:22 AM
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What sort of Gibson bass is it?

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What sort of Gibson bass it is? I've never seen it before. Is it even a Gibson?

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Old 12-13-2011, 04:27 AM
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Not a Gibson.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:37 AM
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So what is it then?
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:50 AM
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Not a Gibson.
It says Gibson on the headstock...
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:56 AM
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Might be some kind of Gibson decal...(?)
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:02 AM
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Haha, would that make it a Gibson?

It's not a Gibson. Looks like a refinned Eastern European bass to me.
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:05 AM
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The guy in the picture is Easter European
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:21 AM
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Looks like a Gibson Viola Bass from the 50's. Here's more updated version of that model by Epiphone.


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Old 12-13-2011, 05:45 AM
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Mh, interesting thanks.
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Gibson never made anything like this bass
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Predecessor to the EB series basses although at one time I think this one may have been designated an EB-2. They didn't stay on the market all that long and were no competition for a Fender Bass but probably competed with Hofner's.
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Looks to be a early model EB1 get a serial # if you can?
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Gibson never made anything like this bass
That's incorrect. They made a violin shaped bass in the 50's and early 60's. Sorry, it was dubbed an EB1 not an EB2.

This is from the message board at the Gibson site;


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I own this as well as a German made Hofner. This bass has very solid feel and great tone. With tape wounds or flat wounds you can get that exact '60s tones of the Hofner at a fraction of the price. I only wish that Gibson would re-issue the violin shaped EB1- which actually came out before the early Hofners. Jack Bruce and Felix Pappalardi both played the Gibson.
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Looks to be a early model EB1 get a serial # if you can?
It is and the Epiphone Viola Bass is a modern day facsimile of that Bass. They were never all that popular but I have seen them before.
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Looks to be a early model EB1 get a serial # if you can?
The EB-1 did not look like the bass in the OP at all. Here's an actual EB-1, which was Gibson's first and only violin-shaped bass in production, AFAIK:



I'm guessing that if the bass in the OP is actually a Gibson, it was most likely a custom job. My money's on it being something else, with a fake Gibson decal slapped on it.
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Soulman, I agree with the EB but the Eb-2 had two horns like a Sheratan
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You maybe right about the Epiphone and someone put the Gibson decal although I have a El Segunda that says Gibson but it is a Epi
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The Gibson 1953 EB was a solid body all mahogany bass with set neck. Later when the EB-0 (SG shaped) was introduced they renamed the EB into EB-1.

Apart from the violin shape it has nothing to do with the hollow bodied Hofners.


The one in the pic that TS is looking for, resembles neither the Gibson nor the Höfner nor the Epiphone. For example: The Gibson doesn't have the (real) F holes. And the Höfner and Epi have the square contolplate.
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Picture of the Gibson plate that came with my Epi

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Here's a little more on the history of the Gibson EB1 Violin Bass

A little introduction to the history of the violin bass.

Asked about the make of the first violin bass of the world, many self-styled experts say immediately: "Gibson with the EB-1". Perhaps it's not the wrong answer but already the question is wrong if we don't define precisely what a violin bass exactly is. You don't have to saw through a violin body to find out that it's hollow. This hollowbody is part of the principles used for these instruments to generate their distinctive sound. So let's find out, which of the first violin basses really deserves this term.


Gibson EB-1

After World War II the onset of rock and roll music adamently demanded new musical instruments and as soon as Rickenbackers 'Frying Pan' turned into the first public available electric guitar, the double-bass men often had a problem to be heard in the mix.
While Leo Fender succeeded with his Telecaster guitar, he tried to expand this success by inventing his first Precision Bass, based on his experience with the Telecaster. Although his invention was geared towards jobless guitar players who should be able to accept job offers as bass players with the guitar-like instrument, he also hoped for acceptance by the double-bass players. But many of them hesitated to try this new way, mainly because they were not used to play some sort of 'guitar' which was hanging around their necks instead of playing it upright as they were used to all the years before. Thus, the sales of the Precision Bass didn't meet the expectations.

One of Fenders Competitors during these times was the successor of the 1918 departed Orville Gibson, who noticed the sluggish sales of the precision bass and decided to offer something to the market that could trick the mental refusal of the bass players. It's a fact, that Gibson already experimented with an electrical upright bass in 1938, but during WWII they didn't continue its developments and the two prototypes vanished in the storeroom. Remembering that project the company eventually came out with their own model of a sort of 'precision' bass (Fender had called it 'Precision' because it was the first fretted bass that should give guitarists a familiar feeling) but keeping the shape as close as possible to the well known double-bass. Needless to say that they had to make its body smaller as it first of all should be bearable for those willing to try the new way of bass playing.
So Gibson took a piece of mahogany, machined it to the shape of a common bowed instrument and gave it a four string neck, little shorter than the 'longscale' seen before from Fender. In order to attract also the old fashioned bass players, they attached an endpin that could be unscrewed and replaced by a pole, so the instrument could also be played upright. With painted f hole-fakes the downsized double-bass was called 'Gibson Electric Bass' and joined the scene in 1953, about two years after Fenders Precision Bass.


EB-1
1955

No one really can deny that a solid piece of wood, weighing 11,681lbs (5,3kg) and an attachable iron bar on its bottom has nothing to do with a fragile violin. The saw that left a violin-shape in the timber didn't hollow it out and therefore the result wasn't actually a violin-like body and therefore the instrument definitely wasn't a violin bass! Less important but perhaps worth mentioning is the fact, that a delicate hollow body would have been problematic with holding the upright stand. As far as I know, this is why only few attempts were made in this direction e.g. by Crown or Egmond/Lion using an end-to-end sustain block in the middle of the body that virtually eliminated the lightweight advantage.


Until 1958 Gibson unsucessfully tried to overtake Fender in bass sales with their Electric Bass but eventually the idea was discarded by introducing the new EB-2 type because the export sales for the heavy mahogany chunk had barely reached some hundred instruments. In the same year, not long before the production of the unfortunate 'Gibson Electric Bass' was abandoned, it was renamed to 'EB-1'. For more than 10 years the EB-1 was not produced until in the late sixties the first wave of nostalgia rerequested the instruments of the fifties. In 1969 Gibson gave the EB-1 a new chance, this time with a Humbucker, different tuners and bridge. But they judged the market wrong again, this time with an export rate that didn't reach the two digit range and the production was closed three years later in 1972.
Although the EB-1 nowadays has only a relevance for collectors, it was a target of copiers over the years, simply because Japanese guitar manufacturers copied nearly everything coming from a successful company. As a tribute that this ancestor of electric basses deserves, a collection of violin shaped solid bodied basses and EB-1 copies is also covered on this site. However the only official copy was the 1999 introduced EB-1 reissue model from Epiphone, even though this time it was again not the most successful instrument on the bass market.

Small photo of a 1955 model with the upright stand on this site; history of the violin bass
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