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02-04-2013, 08:08 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorado | | | First line of the descrition "I'm selling this bass for a freind of mine"
Run away!!! Fast!!!!! | 
02-04-2013, 08:13 PM
|  | Registered User Head Tinkerer, The Flufflab | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: California | | | If it were me, I'd give him one chance to make it right. Tell him what the problems are, ask him to offer a solution. If that sounds good (which includes a timeframe short enough for you to escalate if it doesn't work out) go for it, otherwise file a dispute immediately.
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02-04-2013, 08:19 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles | | | File a claim. IMO, you'll never be able to resell it for much and more importantly, it's not what was promised.
Did you pay with a credit card? File with the credit card company if ebay won't help you. | 
02-04-2013, 08:42 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boston, MA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Stumbo File a claim. IMO, you'll never be able to resell it for much and more importantly, it's not what was promised.
Did you pay with a credit card? File with the credit card company if ebay won't help you. | There's no need to talk to a credit card company. ebay guarantees satisfaction. | 
02-04-2013, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by smcd ebay guarantees satisfaction. | HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Sorry, couldnt help myself... sniffle... lol | 
02-04-2013, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Will Kelly HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Sorry, couldnt help myself... sniffle... lol | As you apparently think that's funny, I have to assume you've never bought anything on ebay. Try it sometime. | 
02-04-2013, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by smcd As you apparently think that's funny, I have to assume you've never bought anything on ebay. Try it sometime. | SMCD, please put the Ernest Borgnine photo back up, that new one is scaring me! ...Please!!
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02-04-2013, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by smcd | I didn't read much of the thread after this post, so forgive me as I'm guessing this has probably been said: You don't get 430 positive feedback/transactions with zero negatives if you're a rat fink seller. His friend may have misrepresented it to him, no?
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02-04-2013, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by king_biscuit SMCD, please put the Ernest Borgnine photo back up, that new one is scaring me! ...Please!! | I enjoyed the other one also. I've come to "know" TBers by their avatar and that new one tricks me into thinking I need to poop. | 
02-04-2013, 10:10 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: santa maria,california | | | i dont see scam at all here. theres a visible crack in top left corner of the block thats in the pictures. is this what youre referring too? i see no structural wood cracking which is what would concern me.
the top of the bass looks lighter than the back in the pics. did you ask for any more pictures?
the pots are a complaint. if he'll throw you a hundred bucks, youll get what a couple of 70's pots go for.
the pickups being disconnected is a non issue. original solder joints on pre cbs fenders is important because of refins. not really an issue here.
the replaced screws are a total non issue imo. if you were looking to make money on this bass than i can see being unhappy. otherwise, youll break even no problem.
the only surprises look like screws and replaced pots. | 
02-04-2013, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Step-Towards The barely used and ALL original besides badass II is what led me to feel that there wouldnt be swapped pots, pickguard and control plate screws, removed pickups and a tampered with finish. When I have a bass thats barely used it hasnt been tampered with. Someone has obviously been inside and out this bass a few times. | The BAII would have been the instant kiss of death on this for me.
As a guy who made his living flipping used gear for a long time, the first thing I learned was that ANY modification usually means that the dork also went through the whole thing with a butter knife and a clawhammer "improving" it, probably four or five times.
It's amazing how consistently this proved to be the case. My first rule was to look for ANY signs of user meddling (burred screwheads, etc.) and reduce my offer by at least a third if there were any.
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02-04-2013, 10:45 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Woodinville, WA | | | File a dispute with paypal immediately and follow their instructions. | 
02-04-2013, 10:46 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: US | | Quote:
Originally Posted by narud i dont see scam at all here. theres a visible crack in top left corner of the block thats in the pictures. is this what youre referring too? i see no structural wood cracking which is what would concern me.
the top of the bass looks lighter than the back in the pics. did you ask for any more pictures?
the pots are a complaint. if he'll throw you a hundred bucks, youll get what a couple of 70's pots go for.
the pickups being disconnected is a non issue. original solder joints on pre cbs fenders is important because of refins. not really an issue here.
the replaced screws are a total non issue imo. if you were looking to make money on this bass than i can see being unhappy. otherwise, youll break even no problem.
the only surprises look like screws and replaced pots. |
I actually agree with all of this.
Edit: btw, since I went there with SMCD, please bring back the monkey. Rick James with the feeding tube is just creepy 
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02-04-2013, 10:57 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Woodinville, WA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by narud i dont see scam at all here. theres a visible crack in top left corner of the block thats in the pictures. is this what youre referring too? i see no structural wood cracking which is what would concern me.
the top of the bass looks lighter than the back in the pics. did you ask for any more pictures?
the pots are a complaint. if he'll throw you a hundred bucks, youll get what a couple of 70's pots go for.
the pickups being disconnected is a non issue. original solder joints on pre cbs fenders is important because of refins. not really an issue here.
the replaced screws are a total non issue imo. if you were looking to make money on this bass than i can see being unhappy. otherwise, youll break even no problem.
the only surprises look like screws and replaced pots. | If it's advertised and sold as all original and isn't, there is a problem. Pure and simple. | 
02-04-2013, 10:57 PM
|  | Don't want no treble. | | Join Date: May 2012 Location: Long Beach CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by catcauphonic I didn't read much of the thread after this post, so forgive me as I'm guessing this has probably been said: You don't get 430 positive feedback/transactions with zero negatives if you're a rat fink seller. His friend may have misrepresented it to him, no? | Yes, and...
Evilbay's feedback system is one of mutually assured destruction. If you give negative feedback, you get the same. Hence, even unsatisfied customers will often hold their fire, giving either positive feedback or no feedback.
OP, please tell us what you decided to do! Inquiring minds want to know.
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02-04-2013, 10:59 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: US | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ShowLow Yes, and...
Evilbay's feedback system is one of mutually assured destruction. If you give negative feedback, you get the same. Hence, even unsatisfied customers will often hold their fire, giving either positive feedback or no feedback.
OP, please tell us what you decided to do! Inquiring minds want to know. | That used to be the case, but I don't think sellers can leave negative feedback for buyers anymore -- which prevents that sort of retaliatory feedback.
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02-04-2013, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by king_biscuit That used to be the case, but I don't think sellers can leave negative feedback for buyers anymore -- which prevents that sort of retaliatory feedback. | Indeed. | 
02-04-2013, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by willsellout If it's advertised and sold as all original and isn't, there is a problem. Pure and simple. | everything has to be taken into context. its not his bass that hes selling and its got a changed bridge. hes got his phone number up. not the marks of scam. theres some minor beef but its like a hundred bucks worth of beef  if something as being sold as "all original except....." you should be going into it knowing its not a collector or high dollar piece. this bass doesnt look barely used from the pictures. | 
02-04-2013, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by king_biscuit I actually agree with all of this.
Edit: btw, since I went there with SMCD, please bring back the monkey. Rick James with the feeding tube is just creepy  | you gotta get with the funk! COMPUTER LOVE!! haha | 
02-04-2013, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by narud you gotta get with the funk! COMPUTER LOVE!! haha |  Hey I watched your youtube link, great playing -- as usual! Now seriously... bring the monkey back...
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