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11-22-2012, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by C.Linton  I found none of that on my MIA '08 Jazz. I have no issues whatsoever. I guess I got lucky  | Yes you did. |
11-22-2012, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DWBass Yes you did. |
Yeah, me and many thousands of others.  You're incorrigible.
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11-22-2012, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by C.Linton Yeah, me and many thousands of others. You're incorrigible. | Must these attacks of my opinion continue? This is getting pretty ridiculous! Do you have nothing better to do?  |
11-22-2012, 08:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chester, Pa.,USA | | | I'm just expressing my opinion of your obvious bias against Fender, and your unecesssary and snarky comment when I tried to say something positive about the. You're the one that can't leave it alone.
Regardless, I will leave you alone from now on.
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Last edited by C.Linton : 11-22-2012 at 08:15 PM.
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11-22-2012, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DWBass By the way, I love my 'flawed' Fender Jazz!  In generalities, my use of the word 'flawed' may be the wrong word to choose. But in general, I find nuts cut incorrectly, uneven frets, fret sprout, high action, neck not adjusted properly, dead spots. No, not all items on every bass but always something. |
I don't know where you're checking basses out, but I've probably checked out close to 50 MIA Fenders since the '08 "improvements", and haven't seen any nut, fret, or dead spot issues on a single one of those - and to hold "high action" or "neck not adjusted properly" against the company instead of the seller is just plain dumb...
Sorry, I think you're way off on this one...
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11-22-2012, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by C.Linton
Yeah, me and many thousands of others. You're incorrigible. | I'm lucky too! |
11-22-2012, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by C.Linton I found none of that on my MIA '08 Jazz. I have no issues whatsoever. I guess I got lucky |
Yeah, I have 2 two '08 MIA Fenders, and they don't have any of those issues, either...
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11-23-2012, 11:55 AM
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Endorsing artist: Brubaker Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Gaithersburg, Md | | Quote:
Originally Posted by DWBass Let me pose the question a different way............
What do boutique jazz bass brands have that a Fender doesn't? And why would a Fender not suffice? | 1. Something the potential buyer thought was desirable. That doesn't mean that it's generally any better, it could just be something a particular buyer wants or thinks they need.
2. see number 1.  Quote: |
By the way, I love my 'flawed' Fender Jazz! In generalities, my use of the word 'flawed' may be the wrong word to choose. But in general, I find nuts cut incorrectly, uneven frets, fret sprout, high action, neck not adjusted properly, dead spots. No, not all items on every bass but always something.
| To even include high action and neck adjustment in that list... wow. It begs a couple of questions... do you do setups and what factory setups do you like?
I set all of my basses up. I even set up my Brubakers when new because I have a different preference than most folks. I "could" play them as is but why when perfection is a few minutes away?
I've been getting "lucky" with Fenders for more than thirty years. I'm probably more detail oriented than most BUT I'm not anal about it. That's the trick I guess. I can play my 78 Jazz which has even by your standard exactly one flaw... the neck pocket isn't air-tight on one side (the neck hasn't budged in ten years), and it doesn't ruin my day. Why? Because I know it has absolutely no bearing on the playability or sound of my bass and since I don't stare at it (and frankly even if I did) it's a complete non-issue for me.
My newer Fenders were all as flawless as just about any of the boutique J basses I've come across with the added bonus of sounding exactly like Fenders. Even my 1997 MIA JD5's. Which for me trumped almost all of the other contenders. 
You have every right to whatever opinion you have of Fender, as low as it apparently is. Fortunately I've managed to avoid the same stuff you continually see. Funny how that could happen. 
Last edited by Brad Johnson : 11-23-2012 at 12:00 PM.
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11-23-2012, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DWBass Yes you did. | No he didn't. People who've seen as many problems as you are in the minority IME. Of course if I thought high action was a flaw I'd be in the same boat. |
11-23-2012, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad Johnson No he didn't. People who've seen as many problems as you are in the minority IME. Of course if I thought high action was a flaw I'd be in the same boat. | It probably wasn't obvious, and for that I'm sorry, but I was being sarcastic when I said I must have been lucky to get a flawless Fender, because, as far as I know, I am only one out of many that has gotten a good one. Luck had nothing to do with it. (Well, as I bought it online, maybe a little, )
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11-23-2012, 03:08 PM
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Endorsing artist: Brubaker Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Gaithersburg, Md | | | It was obvious. |
11-23-2012, 04:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chester, Pa.,USA | | | Well, thnx for that Brad, at least someone got it.
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11-23-2012, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by drTSTingray Does this forum endorse Fender guitars - they appear in every thread!!! | LOL
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11-26-2012, 12:44 PM
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Endorsing Artist: Brubaker Guitars | | | | | I have a stock Fender Geddy Lee Jazz Bass that does it for me. And when I slap I can get that classic Jazz Bass Slap tone. I may be lucky as I think I have a good one. I will never get rid of this particular bass and will take it and play it anywhere. It fulfills all my JB needs. I'm from the camp that prefers Jazzes over P's. I'ved owned and enjoyed and have gigged many times with P-basses. I don't hate them it's just that Larry Graham changed my life forever. I love the slap tone of a JB, and the funky and punchy fingerstyle tone when the bridge pickup is favored.
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