Why are old Peaveys so cheap?

[dickfitts]

Peavey trussrod wrench, $8.98 at stewmac.com, for those who need. Be the first kid on your block!

Originally Posted by nukes_da_bass

Those two videos made my day thanks!

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ANIMALS AS LEADERS FLIPPIN' ROCK! Glad you enjoyed man...that guy's pretty awesome, eh?

[mb94952]

Originally Posted by dickfitts

Peavey trussrod wrench, $8.98 at stewmac.com, for those who need. Be the first kid on your block!



ANIMALS AS LEADERS FLIPPIN' ROCK! Glad you enjoyed man...that guy's pretty awesome, eh?

Which one ? There are three to choose from.
1/4" nut, 9/32" nut, or Gibson 5/16" nut ? Thanks for the link !!

[gard0300]

5/16" I believe.

[smcd]

Originally Posted by mb94952

Gibson 5/16" nut ?

Gibson 5/16 is the one. Get the pocket sized wrench with the angled handle. Works perfectly on all my Peavey basses.

[bumperbass]

OK. Supposing for a second I were to look for a used MIA Peavey in a P-Bass style configuration (P/J). What would be considered Peavey's top of the line? Foundation? Dyna? I know the Fury is an entry level, right, as is the Patriot? My brain is foggy after all this time. I do remember some of them had a 'neck tilt' feature.

[smcd]

Originally Posted by bumperbass

OK. Supposing for a second I were to look for a used MIA Peavey in a P-Bass style configuration (P/J). What would be considered Peavey's top of the line? Foundation? Dyna? I know the Fury is an entry level, right, as is the Patriot? My brain is foggy after all this time. I do remember some of them had a 'neck tilt' feature.

The Fury is definitely not an entry level instrument. It's every bit the bass a Fender Precision is. So unless you consider a P-bass and entry level instrument, the Fury is a pro-level bass guitar.

The Fury (excluding the very early "slant pickup" model) is split humbucker only. If your looking for a P/J setup, your choices are:

• Dyna Unity (active and passive models)
• RJ-IV
• B-Ninety
• Forum (passive model)
• US Grind
• P/J Millennium


The best of that bunch, IMO, is the Dyna Unity (active). The US Grind is hard to find. I've never seen one. The RJ-IV - the Randy Jackson model, is very very nice, but is also relatively rare. The B-Ninety is a well built budget model, as are the P/J Mill (very hard to find) and the passive Forum.

*edit - one more... Foundation "S" model - ran concurrently with the standard Foundation. Great bass.

[mark beem]

Originally Posted by smcd

The Fury is definitely not an entry level instrument. It's every bit the bass a Fender Precision is. So unless you consider a P-bass and entry level instrument, the Fury is a pro-level bass guitar.

This.

I'd put my $165 Fury up against any MIA Fender P out there.

Edit: And yes, I've owned two MIA Fender Ps over the years.

[CBNJ]

Originally Posted by mark beem

This.

I'd put my $165 Fury up against any MIA Fender P out there.

Edit: And yes, I've owned two MIA Fender Ps over the years.

What's a 'good' price to pay for a used Fury? Are they made in the US? Are they still made, or discontinued?

[mark beem]

Originally Posted by CBNJ

What's a 'good' price to pay for a used Fury? Are they made in the US? Are they still made, or discontinued?

They have been discontinued but were all USA made. You can find them easily for under $200.

Here's mine:

[smcd]

Originally Posted by CBNJ

What's a 'good' price to pay for a used Fury? Are they made in the US? Are they still made, or discontinued?

Peavey still markets a Fury model, but it's an import, and nothing like the old Furys. The BXP Fury II and IV have soapbar pickups, and are ok for the price, but nothing special in my book.

The bass you want is the split humbucker Fury, which was made from the mid-80's to the mid-90's. A "good" price to pay is $150. A decent price would be $175-$200. As mark beem said, these basses can stand up against any Fender P made. And nearly all Furys are lighter in weight than a 80's Fender.

[Raymeous]

Because Peavey's don't have Fender on the headstock.

Sorry I couldn't pass it up.

[mark beem]

Originally Posted by smcd

Peavey still markets a Fury model, but it's an import, and nothing like the old Furys. The BXP Fury II and IV have soapbar pickups, and are ok for the price, but nothing special in my book.

The bass you want is the split humbucker Fury, which was made from the mid-80's to the mid-90's. A "good" price to pay is $150. A decent price would be $175-$200. As mark beem said, these basses can stand up against any Fender P made. And nearly all Furys are lighter in weight than a 80's Fender.

That's right. Thanks for the clarification smcd! You da man!!

[CBNJ]

Originally Posted by smcd

Peavey still markets a Fury model, but it's an import, and nothing like the old Furys. The BXP Fury II and IV have soapbar pickups, and are ok for the price, but nothing special in my book.

The bass you want is the split humbucker Fury, which was made from the mid-80's to the mid-90's. A "good" price to pay is $150. A decent price would be $175-$200. As mark beem said, these basses can stand up against any Fender P made. And nearly all Furys are lighter in weight than a 80's Fender.

Could you post pictures of the one I want, and the one I should avoid? I don't want to pick the wrong one off eBay if I go that route.

Maybe you guys are right about cheap Peavey's.. Looks like most Fury basses are under $200.

[smcd]

Originally Posted by CBNJ

Could you post pictures of the one I want, and the one I should avoid? I don't want to pick the wrong one off eBay if I go that route.

Mark beem's Fury above is super nice, and very much one of the desirable models. I'd say that was around 1991? mark??


Other desirable Furys:

Here's one from the mid-late 80s. Desirable

Here's a mid-90's Fury. Very rare, black fretboard, black headstock. Very desirable.


Here's an import Fury IV - avoid.

Here's a Fury II. Import. - avoid (but for $71, that's an ok deal)

[BassicJohn]

The T-40 seems to hold the record for the heaviest Peavey.
Some of the older Patriots with maple bodies were on the heavy side (mine weighs over 10 pounds). The lightest bass that I own at 8 pounds is a Patriot Custom, so the Patriot line was all over the place weightwise. The Forum 5 (mid 90s) was consistent at about 11 pounds and the the 4 string AX version weighed almost as much.

[CBNJ]

Originally Posted by smcd

Mark beem's Fury above is super nice, and very much one of the desirable models. I'd say that was around 1991? mark??


Other desirable Furys:

Here's one from the mid-late 80s. Desirable

Here's a mid-90's Fury. Very rare, black fretboard, black headstock. Very desirable.


Here's an import Fury IV - avoid.

Here's a Fury II. Import. - avoid (but for $71, that's an ok deal)

Okay, so two major questions. 1: why are they selling a bass that competes with MIA P's for $200?! 2: how can you tell those are imports? Sorry for all the questions, just don't want a lemon.

[mb94952]

smcd for President ! He seems to be popular here.

I agree - I don't even consider the BXP's real Peavey's. To me, they are just an overseas made bass with the Peavey logo on it. The BXP Cirrus and Grind are the exceptions.

I think we can all agree here that when we are talking about Peavey basses in the $200-$300 range we are talking about 20th century made in America.

That Fury above in the photo is gorgeous...

[Scott in Dallas]

Originally Posted by Bongolation

Not an expert on Peavey, but have read repeatedly that this was expressly what the "Foundation" name meant to suggest in their marketing, a decent no-frills bass for beginners at an attractive price point, and I seem to remember Peavey print ads to that effect (now of course, Peavey has some Chinese stuff for that end of the market).

Well, you're definitely not an expert on Peavey. In fact, it's the only thing that I've seen you say about it that borders on accuracy. I'll stop short of accusing you of making things up to say that your memory is wrong: The Foundation was their best bass when it first came out. The Fury and Patriot were Peavey's "entry-level" basses. I'd suggest considering Peavey's construction techniques and their partnerships with companies like Schaller which allowed them to make instruments superior to Fenders at nearly half the price, but I know you won't. They didn't cut corners in their designs to do it; implying that a Foundation is a simpler design than a Fender Jazz borders on lunacy.

The Foundation S transitioned to the Dynabass, which had features such as laminate woods, neck-through designs, active electronics, and exotic wood tops.

The above, as well as your subsequent posts, tell me that you lack the requisite experience or attitude to contribute to this kind of conversation. It's fine that you're too ignorant to appreciate good instruments, and it's probably good for the rest of us that you spout your ignorance at anyone that will listen, because it certainly keeps the prices low.

I have to admit that the "erm, well, nobody's going to trade their 1200 dollar bass for a 30 year old Peavey from a pawn shop so that means they suck" argument made me lol.

[smcd]

Originally Posted by CBNJ

Okay, so two major questions. 1: why are they selling a bass that competes with MIA P's for $200?! 2: how can you tell those are imports? Sorry for all the questions, just don't want a lemon.

Why are they selling a bass that competes with MIA P's for $200 - that's what this thread is about.

It boils down to image. Most bass players are brand-conscious. Like many motorcycle riders that sneer at any brand but Harley Davidson, most bass players look down on any brand but Fender. You can put a Peavey Fury next to a Fender P-bass and point out how both basses are equal in every way, but most people can't - or won't - hear the facts. Ask one of them why a Fender is superior to a Peavey, and you'll get the same reaction Luke Wilson got when he asked people why they watered the crops with Brawndo.




The import Furys are easy to identify - they have soapbar pickups - one for the Fury II, two for the Fury IV. The Fury model you want will have a split humbucker, just like a P-bass.

[Scott in Dallas]

Originally Posted by smcd

Peavey still markets a Fury model, but it's an import, and nothing like the old Furys. The BXP Fury II and IV have soapbar pickups, and are ok for the price, but nothing special in my book.

The bass you want is the split humbucker Fury, which was made from the mid-80's to the mid-90's. A "good" price to pay is $150. A decent price would be $175-$200. As mark beem said, these basses can stand up against any Fender P made. And nearly all Furys are lighter in weight than a 80's Fender.

The Super Ferrite Furies from the early 80s are really good as well. They have the slanted pickup with the built-in thumbrest like the T-20. They have the same bridge as the Foundation and Schaller tuners. The bodies are maple or ash if I remember, so the weight can vary pretty widely.