Why are old Peaveys so cheap?

[Misty Mountain]

Wait a minute! I meant to say: You are right. There is NOTHING innovative or even the remote bit interesting about Peaveys at all. By all means, please keep ignoring them, and tell everyone else! It's for your own good after all, wouldn't want you to suffer the disgrace of playing such an undeserving instrument. Perhaps something with a different headstock, perhaps? I hear that there are a great number of folks who have a very high opinion of a company that really hasn't had an innovation in basses in over four decades.

[mb94952]

Originally Posted by Misty Mountain

Wait a minute! I meant to say: You are right. There is NOTHING innovative or even the remote bit interesting about Peaveys at all. By all means, please keep ignoring them, and tell everyone else! It's for your own good after all, wouldn't want you to suffer the disgrace of playing such an undeserving instrument. Perhaps something with a different headstock, perhaps? I hear that there are a great number of folks who have a very high opinion of a company that really hasn't had an innovation in basses in over four decades.

You are correct !!!
When I first started reading your quote, I was getting angry inside and steam coming out my ears. Then, I realized you were being sarcastic as I read on.

"Yes, keep moving, people. Nothing to see here. Keep on moving. Nothing to see..."

Let's keep "our secret" just that. We here KNOW that Peavey is the best. The company you mentioned with no innovation in 40 years is STILL making Model A Fords and Peavey has moved on to power windows, disc brakes, satellite radio, etc...

[maturanesa]

Originally Posted by Misty Mountain

The level of precision that Peavey was able to manufacture them with was still pretty much unheard of at the time for a US manufacturer. They were arguably building a superior quality instrument at a much lower price because of Peavey's adoption of CNC technologies right from their first instruments. Their quality control was light years ahead of most other US manufacturers. Not to mention how good the necks are and the Super Ferrites.

I dont see or hear any superior quality in an old cheap peavey versus a Fender, Musicman, Rickenbacker, Gibson of the same era... Why if old peaveys are that great is hard to find renowned players playing them or albums recorded with them?
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[maturanesa]

Originally Posted by Misty Mountain

Wait a minute! I meant to say: You are right. There is NOTHING innovative or even the remote bit interesting about Peaveys at all. By all means, please keep ignoring them, and tell everyone else! It's for your own good after all, wouldn't want you to suffer the disgrace of playing such an undeserving instrument. Perhaps something with a different headstock, perhaps? I hear that there are a great number of folks who have a very high opinion of a company that really hasn't had an innovation in basses in over four decades.

Im not saying Peaveys are bad instruments. Just trying to understand why you guys have to bash the rest of the brands just because you like that cheaper bass, and keep defending your subjetive opinion by arguing "scientifically peavey basses are the best invention of the human history"...

[vishuddha]

Originally Posted by Scobby Bott

I still say it's the logos.

Honestly, I can't think of any other logo I like more as far as bass is concerned. Except Sunn, including the O))). Who doesn't even make basses, anyway. That I'm aware of, at least.

[BadJazz]

Originally Posted by Fair Warning

Kind of a middle/low class amplifier company who tried to get into the bass guitar market is the first impression that will stick for many people, and will keep the price down.
A solid opportunity for anyone to pick up a quality instument, even USA made in some cases, dispite the stigma that they will always have.

Yup. They made a lot of really crappy solid state amplification over the years and that really sullied the name. And then they started making some real competitive guitars/basses but the damage had been done. (And a damn nice tube mic pre, as well.)

[dukeorock]

Originally Posted by maturanesa

I dont see or hear any superior quality in an old cheap peavey versus a Fender, Musicman, Rickenbacker, Gibson of the same era... Why if old peaveys are that great is hard to find renowned players playing them or albums recorded with them?
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Correct! Move on...this thread is dumb and you should just ignore it

[nukes_da_bass]

I have only once owned a Peavey bass and it was a BXP Cirrus. Great bang for the $194 I paid new old stock with one missing knob!
Had a TKO65 bass amp in the 80s- it did the garage band thing ok...nothing special there.
But when I look at Peavey innovation...TL-5 TL-6, B Quad, Millennium and Millennium plus, Axcellerator, Sarzo...I have demo'd many of these basses and truly it's hard to say why they get such a bad rap!
I think it's sad that Peavey set the bar so low on their amplifiers through the 70s and 80s, people see Peavey on the headstock and they automatically think of that heavy bass amp with the mud bucker tone that they eventually traded towards something else.

[peledog]

Seems like Argentina has a shortage of old US Peaveys.

[maturanesa]

Originally Posted by peledog

Seems like Argentina has a shortage of old US Peaveys.

http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/...1978-8400--_JM

[ggvicviper]

Originally Posted by maturanesa

I dont see or hear any superior quality in an old cheap peavey versus a Fender, Musicman, Rickenbacker, Gibson of the same era... Why if old peaveys are that great is hard to find renowned players playing them or albums recorded with them?
.

Jeff Berlin? Brian Bromberg?

...Phil Kennemore from Y&T?

[dhsierra1]

Originally Posted by ggvicviper

Jeff Berlin? Brian Bromberg?

...Phil Kennemore from Y&T?

Ross Valory for Journey used them for years.

[smcd]

Originally Posted by BadJazz

Yup. They made a lot of really crappy solid state amplification over the years and that really sullied the name. And then they started making some real competitive guitars/basses but the damage had been done. (And a damn nice tube mic pre, as well.)

I don't know anything about the amplifier side of Peavey. But I have a a friend, who is a brilliant guitar player, and he looks at old Peavey solid state guitar amps the same way many here look at Peavey basses.

[Spleenface92]

I flat out love my 80's Peavey Foundation bass. I got it in trade at guitarcenter, and I think I came out on top. I traded an MIM fender P with some upgrades (but no case though), and got an 80's MIA bass with TWO pickups and a hardcase. I mean, even at face value (completely disregarding tone and looks and all that other stuff we bassists like to get all up in a huff about), I'd say that's an upgrade.
And to think...they were only selling it for $180. I love my Peavey. It sounds great, it looks cool, and I can throw stickers on it and have a "punk" bass.

[Spleenface92]

I mean, come on...look at that....that's just fun right there.

[CrewsControl]

Originally Posted by maturanesa

Why if old peaveys are that great is hard to find renowned players playing them or albums recorded with them?

Yeah, I can't think of anyone, either.

[dangnewt]

Supply and demand probably explains it best.

Lots of supply - Peavey made and sold a lot of basses and they are so reliable that it seems that every single one of them is still playable and they still sound good, so players still want to play them

Modest demand - Peavey doesn't have the overall marketing cache of Fender; Ric or MusicMan. The basses were used by some big names and on some recordings, but nowhere near those 3.

This works for me since I've bought more Peavey basses (3) than I have sold/traded (1 pending trade - a 5-string that I lack the talent to play).

[maturanesa]

Originally Posted by CrewsControl

Yeah, I can't think of anyone, either.

That basses are not Old cheap peaveys...

[dhsierra1]

does this qualify as a cheap old Peavey? Ross Valory in the early 80s.

I don't understand the animosity being generated in this thread, there's nothing personal involved, just preferences surrounding an instrument manufacturer, sheesh

And for the record, I have no horse in this race, have played a few Peavey's over the years and thought them good players, I lean towards Fender, but that's just me and my own personal preference.

[maturanesa]

Originally Posted by ggvicviper

Jeff Berlin? Brian Bromberg?

...Phil Kennemore from Y&T?

Jeff Berlin: Peavey paid him to build his own bass (now he is with Dean)

Bromberg: Do you call his Peavey an "old cheap Peavey"?



Phil Kennemore: he played primarily Fenders