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2 Layer Rotary Switch Manufacturers?

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by MothBox, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. MothBox

    MothBox

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    Im having a bit of an issue finding a decent 2 deck rotary switch. They all seem quite stiff and dont have that nice click youd get from a single deck.

    Is this a common issue due to the 2 layers or are there any manufacturers producing a 2 layer switch with that feel-good click?
  2. GlennW

    GlennW Supporting Member

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    Do you need two decks, or two switches in one (like a Strat 5-way)?

    The Radio Shack 6-way is like two in one.

    Here's a drawing I made to give you and idea. I have the two "out" jumpered in this diagram. I'm not going to wire like this, btw.
  3. MothBox

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    For this wiring yer, needs to be 2 decks. Its a pretty complex wiring for a bass.

    I made a mess of a first attempt so didn't even install it and took it to my local guitar tech who wired in a 2 decked switch for various pickup selections.

    Its just a bit stiff turning. Im tempted to get a simple toggle and downgrade my original idea as it is overly complex. But i like the asthetics of the knobs.

    If theres nothing available with smooth switching ill have a look at a nice looking toggle.
  4. GlennW

    GlennW Supporting Member

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    Have you tried all the wiring combinations you're thinking about, and you're sure you'll like/use them?

    I like to test the different oprtions first with long wires and wire nuts (no switch), decide what I want to keep, THEN make a plan for the final wiring and switches.

    Once I had a Strat and put a bunch of switches on it. The guitar had about 15 different combinations with series/parallel. I ended up using about three of the options, and they could have been had on a stock 5-way switch. Lesson learned.

    Sometimes stuff sounds a lot better on paper, but in real life you might not use all the different combinations.
  5. MothBox

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    Yep, this is something I'm currently looking at. I've got about a month before I have to do some re-wiring with some new pickups anyway so thats my timespan for playing around with the current setup and seeing what I use and what I don't. I may rewire this into a simple parallel/series switch.

    Stayed away from this originally as I didn't want a toggle but I'm starting to think it may look okay. A bit of trial and error at the moment.
  6. GlennW

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    That Bronco diagram, I was trying to limit the controls to two knobs so it would look stock (except for the extra pickup). One knob on a volume pot with a push/pull series/parallel switch, the other knob (rotary switch) being a pickup/cap selector switch. That would be very limiting, and if you look at it position 3 would be worthless (to me) because there are no caps in the circuit.

    Good luck with yours.
  7. khutch

    khutch Praise Harp Supporting Member

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    I used a two deck Grayhill rotary switch I got from DigiKey in a mod to one of my basses. They make nice switches that have the good feel that you are after. I got 12 position switches and they came with two teeny pins you can insert into the switch to limit it to any number of positions from 2 to 12. Nice professional grade switches which cost about $25 if I recall correctly so not cheap but I don't think they will disappoint, today or many years from now. I believe there were two or three other brands to choose from too, depending on exactly what you want in terms of number of positions, shaft diameter, etc.
  8. MothBox

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    I wanted a parallel series switch but as i wanted it to be rotary there was going to be dead spots so i attempted pickup selection too on top of a blend knob. It all works, its just the knob itself isnt very satisfying to use and i think ill end up using the blend as a result.

    Ultimately i dont need that many features on the rotary so im going to look at wiring a standard toggle into it instead. I think ill retain the features i use by doing this and all round make it simplier to use.

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