410s: Bag End vs. Ampeg

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  1. iplaybasstexas

    iplaybasstexas

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    yet another cabinet question...

    I need a cab ASAP, and i've narrowed it down.


    Its between a NIB condition BAG END Q10B 4x10
    or
    an AMPEG SVT410HLF (w/ some road rash..)


    Which should i go for? Sonically, i'm thinking the HLF would be best for my fiver, but the Q10 has got sooo much low end, which i also would love to have.

    i play modern rock, and some screamo/progressive stuff.

    The Ampeg is a bit cheaper, but i'm willing to buy the BE if it means getting a cab soon.

    The BE is only 84 lbs, compared to the Ampeg being 110...

    transportation is also a factor..


    What is your experience?
  2. Mastermold

    Mastermold Supporting Member

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    I play an Ampeg 410 HLF with my SVT and it's a very nice cabinet. Can't go wrong with Ampeg as a rule.
  3. TrevorOfDoom

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    Bag End! seriously... it's lighter, it's built like a tank (will not break!), and guaranteed to sound killer! look up some of the reviews on both cabs, and you'll find that the BE always pleases.
  4. iplaybasstexas

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    well the 410HLF is out, wont' be able to get it tomarrow.


    Should i spend $475 on the Bag End?
    or maybe a chance on an old mesa 215. i really dig that BE though. Is that a good price for a BE? he's still got the box for it and everything.
  5. TrevorOfDoom

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    Get it! get it! get it!
    $475?!? do it!

    plus, BE gear has great resale value, so even if it doesn't change your world, you can get some decent return on it.
  6. iplaybasstexas

    iplaybasstexas

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    okay, okay, okay! :)

    i've never played any high-end gear like this, so i'm not sure what to think!

    I think i'm going to get it!
  7. Rando McNally

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    $475 new? Damn! If you don't get it let me know. I'll pick it up myself! Seriously, they are fantastic cabs. I'll play my bagend 2x10 all day. This particular one will have a very deep sound, and a little bit less punch without the coaxial tweeter.

    It will also be more forgiving without the tweeter!

    This is important, especially if you have to play a gig right away. Your first good cab will reveal slop in your playing that you never learn to correct because you never hear it playing through a little combo amp.

    And put enough power through it too. Bag Ends like power!
  8. rpsands

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    Bag End is in a whole different class than Ampeg, and the 410-HLF is Ampeg's second best cab. I'd definitely rock the BE, particularly for 475 bucks :)
  9. iplaybasstexas

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    DEFINETLY not a first cab. This is gonna be a downgrade from my 810.

    BUT


    here's my decision:

    Bag End: $475 on the table
    Ampeg: straight up trade for a bass. (practically free)

    The extra cash would leave me enough to build my custom bass i have in the planning stage.

    Which is better? Invest in the AMAZING cab, or trade for the sweet cab and have cash extra?
  10. James Hart

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    Personally, the Ampeg wouldn't even be a consideration. The tight, quick, punchy tone of the BagEnd Q10B is worlds above the Ampeg

    but DO NOT NEED power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I gigged throughout the 90s with a S12 + S15 SHARING 250 watts between them. The BE stuff sounded killer and I was usually too hot on stage for the sound guy

    the Ampeg maybe... but the BagEnd Q10B is a step up IMO/E
  11. iplaybasstexas

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    but what about the money issue? what would you do?

    what should i do?
  12. James Hart

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    I can't tell you what YOU should do.

    Personally though, it's no contest... BE all the way.
  13. iplaybasstexas

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    I've officially decided. I'm picking that badboy BE tomarrow! :hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper:
  14. sleepy_monkey

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    I play through an HLF right now and it sounds great. I have also played through the 410 BE and it is a nice cabinet too. I play a 5 string Mod.....either way you can't go wrong....the plus about the HLF is casters and a bar.
  15. Jeff K

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    I've never used the Q10B, but I've been using a Q10 BXD for about 8 years. Awesome cabinet. Very clear, clean sound, although it's very heavy. (I think it's 96 pounds.) Killer cabinet though.
  16. rpsands

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    If you're replacing an 8x10 with the BE, why can't you get rid of the spare bass and the spare 8x10 for enough cash to cover the BE? Seems like an easy win to me.
  17. LowBSix

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    BAG END hands down!!!

    Done.
  18. morebass!

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    Is the Bag End the deep one with the co-ax? If so I'd go with that. If its the shallow one it won't go very deep.
  19. raytsmith

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    I'd go with the BE Q10 if its the deep cabinet model.

    My Q10BXD sounds great, but I'm thinking the non-coax model would be even better for rock.

    The only downside I see to these cabinets is that they are wired for 8 ohms. On the other hand, I'm driving mine very nicely with 375 watts, and if you need more volume, they will take pretty much whatever you can throw at them.

    You'll never need to upgrade again...
  20. raytsmith

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    If the Q10 is the shallow model, I'd take a real hard look at that Mesa 215.

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