440 Hz vs 432 Hz

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  1. AaronVonRock

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    I remember seeing this a few weeks ago. Pretty interesting stuff, I definitely preferred the A=432hz version.
    I've always naturally tuned a little flat, when I tune by ear. I guess this could be why.
     
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    From the web pages http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/heres-why-you-should-convert-your-music-to-432-hz/

    Nazis? Really? "Goebbels had but one big...." :spit:
    http://www.roelhollander.eu/en/tuning-frequency/goebbels-and-440/
     
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    This is all dependent on their being 86,400 seconds pre day, take that down to 84,829 by making each second 1.85185% longer and we will all be back on track.

    Octaves use to have 19 semitones not 12. Google "microtonal" and get ready to do some math, musicians are nerds. :(
     
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    I'm still going through the sources the article listed, looking for any traces of real science, but I will mention that the water memory experiment was exposed as a fraud at least five years ago, though that hasn't stopped it from circulating.

    I was really bummed to hear about it, too, the implications were amazing.
     
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    While I won't discuss the reasons touted in the article, I can state that up until the 20th century, most Western music was tuned to A432. Seems like I was told in school that it was changed because A432 was too depressing, and the "brighter" and "happier" A440 would be better for pop music.
     
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    Why would the prettier pattern in water sound better to a human brain?

    Let's see the Brain Scan patterns in a double blind randomized.

    Even if tuned to 432, how often will the slight bending of our notes throw off that beautiful universal harmony?

    It might be fun to think about this stuff - but I doubt that any of us are taking it even slightly seriously.

    Now; Back to my remote viewing of a bigfoot that is bending a spoon while being probed by aliens.
     
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    What absolute and total pseudo scientific nonsense. I really hope no one is taking this seriously.
     
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    That argument makes the implicit assumption that we would want music to be "mathematically consistent with the patterns of the universe", that being numerically correlated with extant patterns is somehow a good thing.

    But if we don't and it isn't, then that argument is just a crock of poop.

    Heck, perhaps if all music was "mathematically consistent with the patterns of the universe" it would cease to distinguish itself as anything special at all! No thanks jeff.
     
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    Whoever wrote this has been tuning to 420 a little too often.
     
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    For the win! :)
     
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    Maestro, the answer is here! But seriously, the idea that 440 is even all that widespread is a joke. Music has been around for at least 60,000 years, based on the ancient antler and bone flutes in the Museum of Natural History in Vienna, Austria.

    I wonder which "A" they used then? What about in 10,0000 BC Africa, or Old Kingdom Egypt? Did Pythagorus care? What was the "A" in the Guidonian Hand or in Josquin's Motets? Did the Shawnee use the same "A" as the Narragansett, and did 12th C. Mali singers tell the Tar players of Persia how to tune?

    Come on. There is no "A," there is only music as we see fit to make it the Art that it is. :rollno:
     
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    My band uses A432 in a A-E-A-D (Bass) and A-E-A-D-G-C-F (guitar)
     
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    Great article, very entertaining. I haven't laughed like that in a while...thanks... :)
     
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    What are you talking about? Everyone knows music started with The Beatles....
     
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    There is a kid somewhere right now thinking that music started with Justin Bieber.
     

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