500~ amp to play with a band?

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  1. Yogen

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    So the "band" is finally put together next week (started as 3 guys doing covers on guitar, then I went bass, soon to be a "complete" band with the new drums), and I don't think my 30 watt Fender will be heard over the drums.

    We play "technical" (still got a long way to go) thrash metal, so the drums will be faast and heavy, and guitar very distorted, so I'm looking for an amp to help me cut through, so I need power.

    As for the sound, my "ultimate" goal is to have a good aggressive high on the mids, fear inducing sound coming from my fingertips, but I can't afford a 2k amp oe bass yet, so as close as I can get will be good.

    Don't need volume for any kind of gig, just enough to sound good over the drums.

    The Fender Rumble 150 seems adequate, I looked at some Peavey but found that their sound isn't good, and the Ampeg BA115 has hiss problems.

    If needed, I might be able to increase my budget just a bit, thhe thing is that living in Mexico, everything costs about 200$ than the original price (trying to buy online doubles the price from taxes and shipping).

    Thank you for reading my unnecesarily long post.
     
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    You might be able to find a used GK 400RB around 200 dollars.
    It's 200 watts @ 4 ohms and it cranks!
    GK amps normally help out with sticking out in the mix with their mid range EQ.
    You would also need a cab that can take a beating if need be!
     
  4. swamp_bass

    swamp_bass I love it when a groove comes together Supporting Member

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    Be a bottom feeder like me, and get more with used gear!

    There's a GK 700 RB-II on sale in the classifieds for cheap right now:
    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f127/fs-only-gk-700-rb-ii-1033040/

    Couple that with a good used 4x10 cab, and you've got enough spare volume to rent out for under $600 total.

    *** Edit - I re-read your post and saw you pay a huge penalty for importing into Mexico. If you don't have a good avenue for used gear in-country, then I still recommend a separate head and cab. You'll get more than from a combo. When a hard hitting drummer and loud guitard overwelmed my Rumble combo, I had no room for growth and had to get new gear. Even a 250 Watt amp plus a 2x12 or 410 will kill most combos and put out sound for days, and the modularity allows you to build on it later by adding cabs.
     
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  6. jasper383

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    Yes, used from the classified section here, if you can get shipping to Mexico.

    I suggest a GK MB500 head into just about any used 410.
     
  7. dune2k

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    GK sounds like something you want, simple but effective EQ and cuts through nicely.
    The newer 400RB (-IV) actually have 280W@4 Ohms.

    Try to get hold of either a 700RB (pref. MK II) or 400RB (pref. MK IV), couple with a 4x10/2x12 as mentioned and you should be good to go. The cleaner sound you want to have the more power you obviously need.
    Also a 800RB would fit the bill if you can find one inside your budget (300W@4 Ohm), they are voiced a little more vintage, but nothing the EQ can't cure.
    If you tune down (a lot ;)) just stay away from the older 400RBs (MK I/II, the look like the 800RB just smaller), they seem to have a fixed low cut which is nice with a 4 string tuned to E but it really sounds poor with e.g. a 5 string/down tuned bass.
     
  8. bassgod0dmw

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    Absolutely go used.

    GK 400RB and whatever decent 4X10 you can find. Forget a combo...it's just going to limit you later on.
     
  9. Tbone76

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    You may want to look at the Hartke lh500 (500 watts at 4ohms) or lh1000 (1000 watts at 4 ohms). The lh500 is $350 new, and around $200-$250 used. Both have a tube preamp, and a simple b/m/t tone control. I just picked up the 500, and it sounds great. I'm now in the market for a 4x10 cab to go with it.
     
  10. coreyw666

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    I agree on the 400rb even with my acoustic b410 cab that was 8ohm it was plenty loud. I just got a 410 ampeg 4ohm cab and it's screaming on a quarter volume. Find an old 400rb leave the boost on and go for it.
     
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    Big +1 for the Hartke LH series heads.
    I recently went to a LH1000......wish I'd have paid attention to these much sooner.
    A tube pre infront of clean power at a very reasonable price brand new......if you can find one used, that'd be even better yet!!!
     
  12. DEDX

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    I play similar genres and I can tell you for a fact the Rumble 150 will NOT cut it.
     
  13. Yogen

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    Saw this GK 400rb for around $400, comes with a 2 10", dont know which model the amp is, the pics arent good quality, there's no info on the speakers, I emailed the seller but he hasnt answered yet.

    http://tlaquepaque.anumex.com/anuncio/gallien-krueger-400rb-2x10-bajo/7104674.

    Seems like a GK would be the way to go, te problem is their hard to find here, both new or used.

    Thx for the suggestions.

    Ps: anyone had trouble with the ste earlier today? Wouldn't load at all.
     
  14. swamp_bass

    swamp_bass I love it when a groove comes together Supporting Member

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    Yeah; I couldn't get in either. I think the site was down.
     
  15. MegaSwing

    MegaSwing Your Obedient Bassist® Gold Supporting Member

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    Get you a Peavey BAM 210 combo. They sell cheap these days. They are VERY loud, and their tonal flexibility is exceptional. Just heavy. It IS a Peavey, after all.
     

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