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59 P bass?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by thejumpcat, Feb 10, 2014.


  1. thejumpcat

    thejumpcat thejumpcat

    Sep 30, 2007
    metro-Detroit
  2. godofthunder59

    godofthunder59 Godofthunder bassist for Knight Patrol Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2006
    Rochester NY USA
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing Cataldo Basses, Whirlwind products, Thunderbucker pickups
    Looks kinda bogus to me.
     
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  4. the art guy

    the art guy Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2008
    Iowa
  5. WillInDenver

    WillInDenver An ounce of perception, a pound of obscure.

    Mar 9, 2005
    Denver, nee Austin
    Looks like a legit seller though. Maybe that is actually a custom shop one-off and he either is selling it as a spec or got hold of it in the middle of the build before it was done (therefore he can sell it as new).

    I'm not bidding on it, but it's a nice looking bass.
     
  6. the art guy

    the art guy Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2008
    Iowa
    CS wouldn't do a '59 with that decal, or that kind of burst. If you look closely at the pics, it's not a CS quality neck or anything either. He may not be deliberately dishonest, but it's not the real deal.
     
  7. JDLowEnd

    JDLowEnd

    Dec 19, 2010
    Groton, CT
    No way that wood selection would be on a CS, it looks like my squier vm with flamed and regular top mixed, looks strange to me, I wouldn't touch it
     
  8. Funky, but I bet it is legit.

    The Music Zoo has a couple CS basses sporting that same black guard, and another "59" with a 70's logo.

    Funky, one off, special order type deal, I guess.

    Music Zoo
     
  9. the art guy

    the art guy Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2008
    Iowa
    Weird! Why on earth would they call that a '59 though?
     
  10. smcd

    smcd

    Jun 28, 2009
    Boston, MA
    That is completely screwy.
     
  11. Agreed. Fender's current spasm of mix-n-match mania is ill-advised. It is ok to make the occasional inaccurate reissue such as a P-bass with blocks -- there is a demand, after all - but this rampant "parts is parts" approach to decals, and the blatant disregard for even the most minimal attempts at period-accuracy, are really so much pee in the collector's pool.

    Kinda reminds me of when I used to laboriously hunt down rare b-sides. Then they all got dumped on CD. Then that all got dumped on youtube. All the searching and collecting was, in the end, pointless -- the result of a false perceived scarcity, same as with basses.

    The Brits have an expression, "Don't make a mug out of your punter." More businesses should take this to heart. At least Rickenbacker doesn't degrade their brand with countless lesser versions.
     
  12. thejumpcat

    thejumpcat thejumpcat

    Sep 30, 2007
    metro-Detroit
    What's really weird is I saw this one on ebay earlier yesterday. I emailed the seller, who originally listed it as a '59, and told him I didn't think it was one based on the headstock logo. In his listing, he has a photo of the C.O.A., which indicates it's a 1959, and the serial number on the C.O.A. and neckplate match.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181319677790&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

    After I emailed him, he removed '1959' from the item header and description.

    Sumtin's fishy...
     
  13. Yeah, see, the one linked above is also a Music Zoo CS build.
     
  14. bufert57

    bufert57 Ashdown User

    Apr 12, 2013
    Los Angeles, CA
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing Artist: 1964 Ears
    Eddies Guitars is a legit high end guitar store in St. Louis. They have a number on the eBay listing.
     
  15. Easy8

    Easy8

    Sep 5, 2007
    Austin, Tx
  16. lsabina

    lsabina Supporting Member

    Sep 3, 2008
    WNY
    I actually called up the store about this bass back in late October. There were a couple of other inaccuracies on their store website listing (which where corrected after I pointed them out).
    Just got a funny feeling about this bass, and the price quoted, was one of those "Gotta buy it right now," type of hypes. And not a very nice sales person. (As soon as I said "I'll pass," he hung up the phone with not even a goodbye--amateurish, IMHO.)
    Needless to say, it's still sitting there.
     
  17. landau roof

    landau roof Reupholstered User

    Jul 29, 2010
    Downstate CA
    What are you two talking about? That's a quarter-sawn neck.

    [​IMG]
     
  18. the art guy

    the art guy Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2008
    Iowa
    Yeah, I stand corrected on that. My comment was actually based on the look of the fretboard and the rest of the neck (including of course, the headstock with inaccurate decal). But oh well - guess I'm wrong. Even though I still can't believe they're calling it a '59.
     
  19. Caca de Kick

    Caca de Kick Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    The CS also offered this same P bass with a black finish (black annodized guard, etc).

    Seems lately they're building whatever they want and calling them whatever they want reguardless if it's historically very inaccurate.
    Look at the "64" Jazz Basses Sweetwater had with maple fretboards. Also look at the "51" Precisions in colors, and some with gold annodized pickguards. I even saw some CS "51's" with rosewood fretboards. :eyebrow:
     
  20. pfox14

    pfox14

    Dec 22, 2013
  21. Having owned a CS '59 Precision that itself was a bit of a stretch (CAR with matching headstock, which was unavailable back in 1959), I must ask... what the hell makes this bass a '59 versus any other year? It doesn't have threaded bridge saddles, has a black single-ply guard, wrong headstock logo... the only things it seems to have going for it is a 2-color sunburst, pickguard screw count, thumbrest location, bevels on the pole pieces... weird. I loved my CS '59 but wouldn't touch this one due to how much is 'off' with it, historically.
     



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