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A compressor and a limiter at the same time : good ? bad ? "original" ?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Bassmike62, Feb 16, 2013.

  1. Bassmike62

    Bassmike62

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    ‘Afternoon.

    As mentioned in another thread, I’ve (quite sadly) put my MilkBox compressor on sale. Since it ain’t sold yet and I love it so much, I put it back on the board just for fun, so for now, I have a chain that goes as follow:

    BASS > TU2 > Micro Q-Tron > BSW > LMB-3 > MilkBox > BassDriver > MXR Stereo Chorus > PBDDI > AMP. (I have a GR MKI on the way).

    I’m pretty sure I had tried the LMB-3 and MilkBox ON at the same time in the past, but maybe they were in a different order or with different settings, but this afternoon… WOW.

    I have the LMB-3 on a slightly modified manual-suggested slap setting (level @ unity, enhance @minimum, ratio @ noon and threshold @ 9) and the MilkBox on a very mild compression setting (Level @ unity, compression @ 9, hi exp and attack are @ minimum, all numbers are “o’clock”). This way, I benefit from the MilkBox’s tone-shaping qualities, for lack of a better way to describe what it does, while having something to protect my gear against my less-than-average technique.

    Since I don’t recall ever seeing something like this on a board or reading about it on Bongo’s Ovnilab site and apart from having a bit of a compressed signal when both are ON (when slapping, mostly):

    - Am I committing some kind of sin ?
    - Am I putting my gear in front of an unforeseen danger ?
    - Or is it simply excentricity on my part ?


    I can tell you it sounds great in the headphones. Any input would be helpful.

    Thx.

    :)
  2. enjoi1018

    enjoi1018 Supporting Member

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    I know there are people around here who run two comps. I've never seen them stacked in the middle of a chain like your's, though. Usually one is set up as a limiter and the other more of a low-ratio, mild compression. Some people love it.

    The fact of the matter is, there are a bunch of compression stages in all your gear. The LMB and MilkBox aren't the only sources of compression, especially if you ever use a PA or mixing board. You aren't hurting a thing!

    By saying "WOW", I think you've answered your own question. Unless you need the funds, run both of them like you are, and say "WOW" every time you play!

    :)
  3. Bassmike62

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    I didn't give placement a decent thought, but good idea. I'll move the MB just before PBDDI, just to see how the chain reacts. I sorta like the LMB-3 where it is, right after the filters.

    Yup, that's the way I got'em (at least dat's whot I tink).

    thx :)
  4. MilkyMcMilkMilk

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    I've been using the LMB-3 a while, love it. My milkbox just arrived today per USPS.COM.
    I plan on using the milkbox 1st in the chain and lmb-3 2nd to last in my chain just in front of my 7band eq.
    but I may try them both in the middle for giggles since it worked well for you.
  5. LSMFT6

    LSMFT6 Supporting Member

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    Daring Audio's Phat Beam has an independent compressor and limiter, and they're both excellent and more versatile than the Milkbox or LMB-3 (i haven't tried the MilkBox but i know that the Phat Beam has more advanced controls.) My first compressor/limiter was the LMB-3 and i like the Phat Beam much, much better.
  6. bassbrad

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    I have no opinion except to say if you already have remorse over selling the pedal perhaps you should keep it.
  7. Bassmike62

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    And I'll try'em the way you planned first, just to see how that works out. :)
  8. Bassmike62

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    I just checked it out... impressive indeed ! I see what you're driving at. But for me, if it wouldn't be for the MBox's flavor, I wouldn't even have considered using a comp/limiter combination.
  9. Bassmike62

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    Exactly. If I can find a safe set-up that allows me to keep the MilkBox, this pedal ain't going nowhere.
  10. bongomania

    bongomania Gold Supporting Member

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    You're right, I don't have a particular article about running two comps in series. I mention it a couple places, but not obvious places.

    Adding it to my "to write" list now. :)

    In the meantime, it's fine, enjoy doing it that way. The potential downsides are too much compression and/or too much noise. Either one of those is determined by your own ears and tastes--if it sounds good to you, rock on.
  11. Inconnu

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    Mike, the question is, is it good? You like your sound?, then go!
    But "nos glorieux" aren't all that "glorieux" these days so I'd lose the Canadiens logo if I were you ;)
  12. cheapbasslovin

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  13. Bassmike62

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    Oops.... I might've missed it. Sorry :)
  14. Bassmike62

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    Man it sounds like a million bucks to my ears. As for the logo, well...chu un hopeless romantic !
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  16. Johno Dunn

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    I run an Alesis NanoComp in my FX loop on my amp as a limiter, and I use the Tube Comp setting on my M5 at times as more of an effect.

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