A particular page turn in Tchaikovsky 2

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  1. hsu912174

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    Hi all,
    So my group is playing Tchaikovsky 2, and in the last movement, before the coda, our conductor decided make his statement by cutting the fermata very short. The site (attached) sits across a page turn, so we only have a fraction of a second to turn the page before launching into some pretty involved presto passages.
    Like this:
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    Into this:
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    Since we have one player to a stand, it was an every-men-for-himself situation.

    Is there some trick-of-the-trade for this kind of situations? (And, if anybody has a good way to talk the conductor into respecting a fermata, I am all ears.:p)

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  2. David Potts

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    Photocopy the music from the 3 bars rest before the page turn, cut it down to a thin strip and stick it to the top of the next page with little tabs of sticky tape. Masking tape is good because it won't tear the paper when you remove it later. You now have 3 bars rest to turn.

    It means that at least one of you will be ready for the Presto that follows. Lookin' good?

    Cheers, DP
  3. Phil Smith

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    You can also just pencil in the notes after the 3 bars of rest at the top of the presto page or just memorize the A, Eb, C, F#.
  4. hsu912174

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    Sounds like a plan. Thanks.
  5. hsu912174

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    Also, I have seen tricks like dog ear on the lower right of the page turned by the bow. Is that reliable?
  6. eerbrev

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    i find it really unreliable, personally.
  7. carl h.

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    Photocopy is the go to in this situation.
  8. bejoyous

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    Remember to use tape so the photocopy doesn't fly somewhere just when you need it.

    OR since it is quiet, stagger the page turn so at least someone can not play the last bit of the slow movement but can come right in with the presto.
  9. Fez1

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    what is the benefit of having one player to a stand? that's ridiculous.
  10. carl h.

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    Some old eyes can't see when 2 are on a single stand.
  11. bejoyous

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    Then there is the often large size of the players.
  12. Space Pickle

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    ^hahaha ZING
  13. hsu912174

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    I once put a bruise on my stand partner's hand when I momentarily messed up the bowing.
    That may have something to do with it?

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