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Advice Please: Need Jazz pickups. Noiseless. Passive. Even tone. Ideas?

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by ::::BASSIST::::, Jan 19, 2014.

  1. ::::BASSIST::::

    ::::BASSIST:::: Relax... Nothing Is Under Control. Supporting Member

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    What do you guys recommend for jazz pups that:

    - have even tone. I currently have Model Js in my bass and they have quite a deep tone. I want to move away from that. My bass is naturally quite warm and its just too much of a good thing.

    - must be passive

    - must be noiseless

    I have considered the Bartolini 9J1 but descriptions indicated big lows... which again I don't want. I want lows but not goosed... just even. I have also considered the
    EMG JHZ but the reviews seem mixed.

    What other pickups should I consider that meet those criteria?
  2. mmbongo

    mmbongo Supporting Member

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    Dimarzio Area J
  3. mcnach

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    These. Lovely pickups.
  4. ::::BASSIST::::

    ::::BASSIST:::: Relax... Nothing Is Under Control. Supporting Member

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    Do the Dimarzio Area Js have the super deep casing? The Model Js do and they barely fit my pup cavity.
  5. mmbongo

    mmbongo Supporting Member

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    Nah, not much bigger than a normal J pickup.
  6. ::::BASSIST::::

    ::::BASSIST:::: Relax... Nothing Is Under Control. Supporting Member

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    I replaced my Jazz Deluxe N3 Noiseless pickups with Linday Fralin, over wound 8%. I also removed the active electronics and installed new 250k pots, Orange Drop .047 capacitors and shielded the cavity. I get more mids and little more bottom, more output and no noise. I have never had so many compliments on my tone.
  8. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim Gold Supporting Member

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  9. Stumbo

    Stumbo Wherever you go, there you are. Supporting Member

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    Alternatives to changing pickups:

    Think about adding fdeck's HPF/pre V3 to your signal chain. It's cuts off unwanted sub-harmonics 35hz and below and is adjustable up to 140hz. Tightens up lows and protects speakers. Takes the boom out of the room. Win Win.

    Also, try cutting the bass eq and increasing mids on your amp or possibly adding a Foot pedal 7 band eq to create the tone you want.

    Post some audio if you can.
  10. markanini

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    Dimarzio Area J, Wilde J-45(more consistent volume between neck and bridge), Seymour Duncan stacks(not sure about these)
  11. micguy

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    Your model j's will sound quite different if wired in parallel. If they sound too thin that way, a capacitor can get you something in between sonically.
  12. brainburst

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    +1 on this. You can also wire the two pickups in series when they are individually parallel to boost it a bit.
  13. ::::BASSIST::::

    ::::BASSIST:::: Relax... Nothing Is Under Control. Supporting Member

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    Well I just bought a Nordstrand NJ4 jazz pickup set off the classifieds.

    They are not noiseless, but they sound dang good. Love the sweet high-end they give.

    I have owned the NP4 set previously and really dug them.

    Since I am not willing to separate from my 7 year old Chromes, I think these pups will bring my bass to a whole new level of "tone".
  14. rojo412

    rojo412 You're entering a world of bass... Supporting Member

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    +1 for Area Js.

    From what you described, it's almost exactly what you're looking for in the difference from the Model J.
  15. TN WOODMAN

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    Fender SCN. Bill Lawrence designed. Reasonably priced. Sound great on my passive Fretless jazz. Also mine has series/parallel push pull switch, consider as well.
  16. Angel Switch

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    Anyone have any thoughts on the DiMarzio Ultra Jazz set...?
  17. rojo412

    rojo412 You're entering a world of bass... Supporting Member

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    Great pickups, but more scooped sounding. Very high highs and very low lows. Super modern sound. I love them, but they aren't really EVEN sounding like the Area Js.

    And yeah, Fender SCN pickups are great too.
    Anyone try the 55s yet? How do those compare?
  18. chucko58

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    I'd have voted for the Bill Lawrence Wilde J-45s. I have used several sets of these over the years, mostly in basses I sold off for ergonomic reasons.
  19. soulman969

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    I play a set of Bill Lawrence/Wilde J45s. Rather than extol their virtues myself I'd suggest you search out the thread on his P46 and J45s here. These are great sounding pickups and very reasonably priced for a noiseless set.


    http://www.wildepickups.com/Bass_Pickups.html
  20. ::::BASSIST::::

    ::::BASSIST:::: Relax... Nothing Is Under Control. Supporting Member

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    Thanks for all the suggestions.

    As I mentioned in post 13 I bought a Nordstrand NJ4 jazz pickup set off the classifieds.

    I am wondering how the Nordys will sound with the TI J344 flats I just got as both have quite a bit of highs. Its going to be a departure from the thud machine I am currently playing.

    If the nordys dont quite do it for me I have some good suggestions from this thread to check out.

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