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America Can No Longer Arrest It's Way Out of Heroin Addiction

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by fhm555, Jan 9, 2014.


  1. fhm555

    fhm555 So FOS my eyes are brown Supporting Member

    Feb 16, 2011
    Heard this on the news tonight. Apparently the point was if all the junkies in America were arrested today, we couldn't imprison them all even if we turned out all other criminals currently incarcerated.

    They blamed the high cost of prescription opiates. Said an oxy is $30 a pill and the amount of junk to get he same effect is $4.00.

    Sounds like scag dealers have a firm grasp on the economics of scale.
     
  2. BawanaRik

    BawanaRik Supporting Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    New Jersey
    The doctors get em hooked. The clockers keep em feed.
     
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  4. BawanaRik

    BawanaRik Supporting Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    New Jersey
    Street dealer are not USP. They don't have armies of lawyers to defend from malpractice lawsuits.

    Trust me. Bayer would get back into diesel production the price would drop and the quality would soar.

    Content uniformity would be right to the letter and and with modified fentynals coming off the patents efficacy would leave diesel in the dust.

    But it would be infinitely safer.
     
  5. Monster Truck

    Monster Truck but some people call me Kenny Supporting Member

    Aug 22, 2011
    Erie, PA
    Simple solution: build more prisons.:bag:
     
  6. P. Aaron

    P. Aaron Supporting Member

    That prompts questions with uncertain answers:

    What do we as a society do? Legalize it? Tax it?

    What would the effects be on the populace over time?
     
  7. DerHoggz

    DerHoggz I like cats :| Banned

    Feb 13, 2009
    Western Pennsylvania
    Appalachia runs on Oxy and heroin. Yay cheap coal!
     
  8. GK Growl

    GK Growl Banned

    Dec 31, 2011
    Throwing people in jail who have mental health problems is not a solution. :bag:
     
  9. Monster Truck

    Monster Truck but some people call me Kenny Supporting Member

    Aug 22, 2011
    Erie, PA
    That was sarcasm.
     
  10. Ironbar

    Ironbar

    Aug 24, 2013
    Portland, Oregon
    I don't think people would really go for my idea of permanent removal from society.
     
  11. Society has to get over the idea that depriving a junky of drugs is cruel. I say it's more cruel to effectively tax them to sustain the prescription poisoning.
     
  12. BawanaRik

    BawanaRik Supporting Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    New Jersey
    Treating a health problem as a legal problem isn't a good idea.

    Victimless crimes? How can there be a crime without a victim? Now if someone is forcing the drugs upon someone, like a child or a preborn, prison is too good.

    Exile would be more appropriate.

    The fact is this is an opportunity ot bring some good paying jobs back into the legitimate economy. I'll bet the API can be make for about a dollar a gram, within an order of magnitude. This would allow plenty of room for markup as well as enough to tax to externalilties.

    This cat is out of the bag. It's taken decades to make a small cut into the tobacco addiction problems the US has. Much of that was funded by taxing the drug. There has been improvement with tobacco. It took hard work and time.

    Addressing the dope problem will require the same and more. It will require vision and focus for a long term project that is for our granchildren. And Great grandchildren.
     
  13. BawanaRik

    BawanaRik Supporting Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    New Jersey
    It does provide high paid easy jobs for connected people who can't do much else.

    I'm not a fan of jails in general. Expensive cruel and they don't provide much in the way of positive outcomes.
     
  14. DwaynieAD

    DwaynieAD Supporting Member

    Nov 20, 2010
    Mechanicsburg, PA
    Can't afford your anti depressants, too bad. Can't afford your heroin, the government will provide it for you. Seems like a good idea. :rollno:
     
  15. DerHoggz

    DerHoggz I like cats :| Banned

    Feb 13, 2009
    Western Pennsylvania
    I know some recovering heroin addicts. They are more valuable with methadone than dead.
     
  16. Oxy does not cost $30 a pill. It's fairly inexpensive if you have a prescription and has been generic for a while. Even cheaper with insurance. ~$30 a pill is street price with dealer's cut.
     
  17. Is this another anti-Big Pharma thread?

    The goal of methadone clinics is to try to keep the addiction under control to keep from binges, shooting up, etc. If ya want to make money, overdosing and going to the hospital is pretty pricy.
     
  18. How much does someone on welfare pay for a prescription?
     
  19. Unrepresented

    Unrepresented Something Borderline Offensive Supporting Member

    Jul 1, 2006
    San Diego, CA
    Mountain Dew for the trifecta. "Mountain Dew Mouth" has replaced "meth mouth" as the dental aesthetics ruiner du jour.
     
  20. fhm555

    fhm555 So FOS my eyes are brown Supporting Member

    Feb 16, 2011
    Really? Whoda thunk it...:D
     
  21. Month's supply could generally be around $20 with insurance, $1 for welfare patients.
     



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