Amp in pedal format

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  1. Jazz Ad

    Jazz Ad Mi la ré sol Gold Supporting Member

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    This should be the next evolution.
    Class D amps are barely bigger than preamps nowadays so why doesn't one come up with a bass amp in pedal format ?

    It could come with a switchable effect loop, good DI and find a spot right on your pedalboard.
    Has anyone done this and if not, why do you think it is so ? People aren't ready yet ?
     
  2. GeoffTPS!

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    Running long lengths of Speaker Cable(From pedal board to cabinet) is generally not recommended.

    If you're just going direct they basically already make these - See Sansamp.

    I remember reading that Geddy Lee only used a Direct Box on one tour.
     
  3. scotch

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    Electro Harmonix has made a couple of guitar amps in pedal enclosures. I haven't seen a dedicated, gig realistic bass amp in a pedal yet. Plus, as mentioned above, you start getting into speaker cable runs that are asking for trouble.
     
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    Jazz Ad Mi la ré sol Gold Supporting Member

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    Long speaker cables are not a problem. For PA you run them dozens of meters without an issue.
     
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    Right. Assuming we are a talking less than 50 ft of decent quality 14ga. speaker cable, you should not run into issues.
     
  7. scotch

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    Yeah, but you also don't have band members running all over them either! ;-) It's certainly 'do-able'...

    Either SKB or Furman makes a pedalboard with a built in amp & speaker, I believe. Pretty much a novelty of course.

    I've seen guitar players mount a small amp (like an Orange Tiny Terror) to a pedalboard to run talk boxes. Pretty big setup for a pedalboard!

    The technology is probably there, but not the demand yet for a giggable bass amp designed to fit in a pedalboard. Honestly, current designs like the Aguilar TH350 or new Traynor micro could easily be mounted on a pedalboard with some creativity. I'vo owned pedals heavier than my Aggie head!
     
  8. scotch

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    I imagine heat dissipation is a limiting factor on how small an amp can be. 5, 10, 15 watts? That's one thing, but 100 watts or more probably isn't gonna pop up until new cooling strategies are developed!
     
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    What, a GK MB200 doesn't count? I've seen them on people's pedal boards before. No switchable loop, though.
     
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    IMO... the light weight and small size of class D amps make it ideal for the next generation of cabs to contain the power amp sections and for the pedal boards to contain the tone-shaping and other bells and whistles (aka the preamp/DI sections)...

    this is already here, just not so popular, yet.
     
  11. scotch

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    Yup! There's an angle. Already been done & is still, but a good idea I think. The newest upright bass systems employ an ethernet link from pre to powered cab.

    Still, this could be better explored for bass guitar applications.
     
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    scotch Will play bass for fish tacos. Plus cash. Supporting Member

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    But 4 watts? I've gigged 30, but 4 is pushing it, lol!
     
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    This is the one that always makes me think- Why doesn't someone make one of these with no preamp and a maybe a biiiit more power amp that size? It's not like they're new this year cutting edge or anything.
     
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    Didn't SWR do that?
     
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    Haha, trust me at that price I'm not fighting a losing fight for this pedal :bag:

    However it just seemed to be kinda thing the OP was looking for
     
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    I think you guys mean something like this.

    It's not for bass, personally I don't see the point of having a pedal in a pedal, you still need to cart a cabnet around.
     
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    I don't know .. i feel like i'm always open to new concepts such as this and i embraced the whole ClassD thing, owning two such heads and never playing any of my other amps, but it somehow would not feel right to have no head on my cabs. Doing all the toneshaping with the pedalboard would be fine with me, but i'd still call for a box on top of my cabs with a power switch and a master knob. Having the master on the floor in front of me would not feel too comfortable.
     
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    Jazz Ad Mi la ré sol Gold Supporting Member

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    I use active cabs with a preamp on the pedal board so I have no head atop the speakers already.
     
  21. ryansalmond

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    Yeah I like that idea.
     

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