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Ampeg sound in one rackspace preamp!

Discussion in 'Amps [BG]' started by tallboybass, Jan 31, 2014.


  1. tallboybass

    tallboybass Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2003
    Tulsa, Oklahoma
    What would you recommend? Sansamp? Ampeg SVP-CL? SVP-PRO? Help!!!

    What do you think of the PF-800?

    Thanks,
    Alan
     
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  3. Jim C

    Jim C Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2008
    SVP-CL
    Has the front end of an SVT-CL and sounds very close to the real deal as well (with the exception of any power tube grind / compression)
    I have one of each as well as a 7 Pro
     
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  4. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps
    Ya, SVP-CL.
     
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  5. SVP-CL although my "Main" Pre is an SVP-Pro...
     
  6. bolg55

    bolg55

    Feb 23, 2011
    I use an SVP-Pro and I love it. I don't have experience with the CL though, so I might be biased.
     
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  7. tallboybass

    tallboybass Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2003
    Tulsa, Oklahoma
    Thanks! They don't make the SVP-CL any more do they?

    Also, in your opinions, does the PF-800 sound authentically tubey?
     
  8. Steve

    Steve

    Aug 10, 2001
    The SVP CL really is (imho) the pinnacle of "Preamps that sound like an SVT.

    There is enough distance between one of them and anything else in that category that if I was looking for that sound, I would wait and hunt one up.

    If mine ever goes south, you can believe it's going to get replaced ASAP despite the fact that I have...5 other pre's.
     
  9. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps
    Ampeg makes no preamps anymore. And while the PF800 does have some of that SVT vibe to it and sounds a little like a tube amp, you can tell the difference when you sit it next to an SVT.
     
  10. tallboybass

    tallboybass Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2003
    Tulsa, Oklahoma
    What's your opinion on the SansAmp stuff? I actually own a ParaDriver...it seems pretty scooped and bloated on the low end.
     
  11. seamonkey

    seamonkey

    Aug 6, 2004
  12. AdamR

    AdamR Supporting Member

    Sep 24, 2007
    Bethel CT
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing Artist: VF Cables, Dirtbag Clothing
    The trick to getting mids out of the sansamp stuff is to roll lows and treble back. Also try keeping the blend down below noon.
     
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  13. The Tech 21 VT units are nice too.
     
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  14. AlexanderB

    AlexanderB

    Feb 25, 2007
    Sweden
    EBS stopped making their rack mount preamps for strategic reasons, as their own power amps could note compete with the big brands. Offering a pre only was not a viable option, they have said. I guess Ampeg took the same route?
     
  15. AlexanderB

    AlexanderB

    Feb 25, 2007
    Sweden
    I do not think the VT Bass captures the "girth" and sense of aggression in the lows of a real SVT. It is also too "tight" in the lows through a SS amp, as those do not "bloom" in the lows like a tube amp, IME. I still keep a VT Bass, even if it rarely gets used.
     
  16. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps
    Any sort of SVT substitute will get the job done, including the VT, but again, put them side by side and you see why you still see lots of SVT's on stages.
     
  17. tallboybass

    tallboybass Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2003
    Tulsa, Oklahoma
    Thanks Adam...and everyone, I think the ParaDriver will get me close enough. I took your advice...rolled back the lows and highs, boosted the mids, sounds pretty big but trying to maintain some definition, I'll blend in more dry signal if it needs it.
     
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  18. SactoBass

    SactoBass There are some who call me.......Sactobass

    Jul 8, 2009
    Sacramento California
    Tallboy:

    There's also the rather hard-to-find Ampeg SVT-IIP single rackspace preamp. It has three tubes in it. It is exactly the same preamp that's in the SVT-II non-pro amp. I own an SVT-IIP preamp, and I also own an SVT-II non-pro amp. To my ears, this preamp sounds closer to the vintage (early 70's) Ampeg tone than the SVP-Pro or SVT-CL preamps.
     
  19. tallboybass

    tallboybass Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2003
    Tulsa, Oklahoma
    Cool, thanks!
     
  20. svtb15

    svtb15

    Mar 22, 2004
    Austin,TX- New York,NY
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    Endorsing Artist:Alleva-Coppolo| MESA |Genz-Benz R.I.P.|REDDI|Westone
    My FAVE Ampeg pre has always been the SVT-IIP preamp... Same front end as teh SVT2 Non Pro.. Sounds like my old '73...
     



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