Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by kenstee, Mar 31, 2012.
Looks interesting: DMS - Helix HD Strings
Anyone try them (gauges/type?) Opinions?
A birdie told me the Nickel Plated Steel versions have not started shipping yet, although the Nikki Sixx have. (at least that what this birdie told me).
I haven't gotten a chance to play them, but I expect them to feel smoother and faster similar to how strings with smaller diameter outer windings feel. But since the outer winding is compressed side to side (rather than like a "pressure wound" string where the surface area is wider / winding is thinner), these strings will probably have a thicker tone to them.
Interested in giving them a shot for sure!
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FWIW - Nickel Plated Steel's actually DID ship already!
Anybody try them?
Well, these are actually Exposed Core strings!
No where on any Dean Markley documentation does it state this.
I have seen a recent review posted on a website
I've had success with Dean Markley so I just bought my first Helix pack to hear what they sound like on my P/P passive bass. since they are exposed core gotta raise the saddles and set up the intonation again. I'm a heavy slapper so I think they might break They sell the SS ones here for $16.99 with free shipping http://www.ebay.com/itm/280877790278?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Just tried the Helix NPS set on my passive jazz bass for the first time and here are my initial impressions:
Bass: Fender American Deluxe: Alder Rosewood; converted to passive w/Fralin pickups
Gauge: Light (100 / 80 / 60 / 45) - the tension is medium/low with the E & A strings being a little looser than the D & G, most likely because they are exposed core. I had no problems setting the action or intonation and all 4 strings sounded clear up and down every note on the fingerboard (the E & A get a little mushy up at frets 17-22 but no more than any other string I've used and chords still sound good up there). Strings were top-loaded.
Feel: Exceptional. These strings are silky smooth to the touch and not grabby like some compression wound or ground wound strings I've tried. The reduction in finger noise is significant.
Sound: I am accustomed to a fairly bright nickel string (Fodera) so that's my point of reference. These strings don't have the zing that you expect new strings to have...until you slap/pop them. Then magically they sound reasonably crisp and snappy. With fingerstyle you don't quite get all that upper harmonic content (or the associated finger noise) but somehow they still ring clear. What was immediately noticeable was the way these strings brought out the midrange 'bark' and 'burp' that makes a jazz bass so fun to play and the growl with a pick was excellent with no harshness to tame either.
After about 20 or 30 minutes it dawned on me that these strings remind me of my favorite strings after 6 or 8 hours of play time. Yes, I miss some of the crispness I get with new Foderas but in reality I end up dialing most of it out for gigs anyways until they settle in. I bet on an active bass I would notice it even less.
It will be interesting to see how the sound of the Helix strings develop after some extended play time but as far as first impressions go these strings are a winner.
Two things I forgot to mention: first, upon arrival the outer wrap of the tapered A string was poking out at the bridge end and required a little love from my needle nose pliers to bend it around and out of the way. No big deal but if it's a common problem it should be noted. Second, the silk wrap on the tuner end of the strings is somewhere between raspberry and pink so it's not the most conservative looking but it's not gaudy by any means either.
I'm seriously considering giving these strings a try.
I was also pretty excited, until I saw the dreaded .125 B string on all but the "medium" gauge sets. :scowl:
Are you a .130 user? I see the heavier set has a .128. I really wish the standard set came with a .128.
Yeah, me too. I don't know what possesses manufacturers to think that .125 balances with a standard gauge set. I can think of one, maybe two, .125 Bs that can cut it.
How do they compare to DM's Blue Steels?
Well, after a giving these strings a workout in practice, rehearsal, and a 2 hour gig last night I think they are very good but not for me. The midrange growly character is cool but not what my ears are accustomed to. I will miss the super smooth feel though.
Are they smoother than DR Sunbeams or Nickel LoRiders? Those are some darn smooth strings for rounds.
Yes, even smoother as hard as that is to fathom.
Bleh. No 40-100 and no 130, not the strings for me I guess
Yea, I just bought a bass I'm gonna string E-C. Wish these had a high C option.
Geez, that sounds perfect. Now make them with a friggin' bigger B string dagnabbit!
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