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Are 18" speakers still something with having

Discussion in 'Amps [BG]' started by Green Lantern, Dec 2, 2012.


  1. Green Lantern

    Green Lantern

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    Do you find 18" speakers still offer something special that the 15"s lack even if your going through the house system? I don't see too many company's offering 18" speakers anymore.
     
  2. Jazzdogg

    Jazzdogg Less barking, more wagging! Supporting Member

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    Diameter isn't as important as implementation.
     
  3. christw

    christw Get low!

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    There are A LOT of threads on talkbass about speaker size you can feel free to read. Short answer: No. There are a myriad of more important factors than speaker size including the driver & it's T/S parameters, box construction, tuning, etc.
     
  4. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Gold Supporting Member

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    for PA? sure.

    for bass? nah.
     
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  6. oinkbanana

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    svt-18 with a 4" voice coil.... WOW
    tuned great, moves air!
     
  7. Bassist4Eris

    Bassist4Eris Non Serviam Supporting Member

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    That's what she said. :p
     
  8. craig.p

    craig.p Supporting Member

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    I can think of one application where the answer would be yes: A medium-sized room (200-300) where the PA is marginal (or nonexistent) down in the bass region. You need to cover the room well from the stage, but at the same time you don't want to blast out the stage with bass. Perfect solution would be a Cerwin-Vega 18" folded horn because they couple well to the room, are very efficient, and they're not loud in the immediate vicinity.
     
  9. BogeyBass

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    Yah they do offer something special.

    Most bass players seem to be scared of them

    So if you do use them you can be unique and can punish the world..muah hah hah.

    yah anyhoo more to it than that...but its a secret sshhhhh
     
  10. kurosawa

    kurosawa Supporting Member

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    One good thing, you can pick 'em up for peanuts. Another, you can pick 'em up for peanuts.
     
  11. bgavin

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    I'd say "no".

    My experience is restricted to JBL E155 and Definimax 18LF.
    The JBL is typical of the E-series... very efficient, loud, and no bottom.
    The chrome dome produces a response well up into the 4KHz region, but it is very directional.

    The 18LF is a project I built for Chelsea Baker some years back.
    I built her an Eden look-alike intended to match her existing D410-XLT.
    After two seasons on tour, she managed to blow up both cabs.
    She sold the D410-XLT and the 18LF came back to me.

    I bought a brand new 18LF from Leland (speakerhardware.com) so I can replace the blown driver, and sell off the cab.

    Measurement-wise, there is nothing special about the 18LF that 15's cannot accomplish.
    It is a very nice driver, heavy and expensive.
    It performs very well, but is nothing unique.
     
  12. NOVAX

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    How about a 21" driver for some serious sub sub
     
  13. bgavin

    bgavin

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    Mom says, "Just say No to 21.0"
     
  14. two fingers

    two fingers You tahkin 'uh me? Yeah, you. You tahkin 'uh me? Supporting Member

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    Of course, you could always go for SIXTY INCHES! Bring it to shows on a forklift. And just wink at the guy across the stage with a Marshall half stack pointed at your head.

    Wait..... what was this thread about again?

    Oh yeah. You can get an 18 if you want, but a well-tuned 4-10 will knock into next week.
     

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  15. kurosawa

    kurosawa Supporting Member

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    As soon as that hits the market, someone's gonna stack a 4x40 on top of it for punch, and someone else is gonna ream him for it.
     

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