Are all jazz necks noodles?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Frozen J, Mar 18, 2014.

  1. So.... I haven't played a ton of jazzes so I thought I'd ask. My '09 MIA is quarter sawn but it's such a noodle! Just a light pull on the headstock and I can fret the stings out. Like, with my pinky! My P-Clone barely moves. My new stingray? Little movement. So is this normal? Are they all wet noodles?
  2. No one? FWIW I love that bass. It looks/sounds/plays awesome!
  3. sharpbass

    sharpbass Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2011
    Well, you didn't give us very much time yet. I'm sure you'll get responses.

    So the issue is when you pull down on the neck it flexes?
  4. Matt Dean

    Matt Dean Supporting Member

    Jan 2, 2007
    SF (North) Bay Area
    My Nordy vJ4 didn't have a noodlely neck. My '73 P with an A neck isn't a noodle either... but then I haven't made it a practice to pull back on the neck. Does it stay in tune and stay straight?
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  6. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    Some are more knoodelish than others. How is the relief? Don't you have two graphite reinforcement bars? Maybe your neck pocket screws need to be snugged? Maybe you have a defect?

    Are you using higher (than average) tension strings? Has the instrument been subjected to environmental extremes (heat/humidity)?
  7. Jutsushine


    Jan 8, 2010
    Yeah, the necks have less wood and may bend a little easier than p bass necks. But it still depends on the bass. My Geddy Lee jazz bends like crazy but my Modern Player jazz is pretty solid. The new American Standard jazz basses have high quality aged wood that's quarter sawn with graphite support rods to keep the neck rigid. Maybe the '09 doesn't have the extra support from the graphite. I mostly play jazz basses so I'm used to the bendyness some can have. You can either learn to love it or find one with a more solid neck. They're out there.
  8. Thanks guys. I kinda thought as much. I have no idea about the re-enforcement rods. How would one know? It's maple and looks great. Bolts and relief are good. Still the strings that were on it when I bought it. Feel pretty tight but not ridiculous. No extreme weather exposures, mind you I live up north but the humidity is stable. I had to loosen the truss rod last month to get the action back down. No biggie.
  9. JIO

    JIO Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jun 30, 2010
    Pacifica CA
    musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe
    :confused: hummm.., I own a number of J's (different yrs/models) and that's just not a term I would even consider using referring to them. Maybe you should check out a Steinberger.
  10. Tbone76


    Aug 24, 2013
    Upstate, NY
    I've had a few jazz basses, and the only one I remember having any issues was my Roadworn. Its neck needed to be adjusted frequently. My Reggie Hamilton Standard, MIM's, and my current MIJ 70's jazz have not needed any real adjustment after initial setup. My RH jazz and my current 70's jazz are thicker front to back than any other jazzes I've owned, so maybe that helps. I owned my RH for approximately 2 years, and I only had to tweak it when I changed strings. Seasonal changes didn't seem to affect it at all. It was very stable.
  11. mdogs

    mdogs Supporting Member

    Apr 13, 2010
    Cary, Il
    If you are using the truss rod to set your action, that is a problem.
  12. Marial

    Marial Synthlandia Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 8, 2011
    I'd have to really crank to move the neck on my Hwy One, but it can be done. It's been extremely stable.
  13. MIJ

    That's all there is to say. Fantastic stable necks.

  14. metron

    metron Fluffy does not agree

    Sep 12, 2003
    Lakewood Colorado
    No certainly not all. I've found the graphite reinforced Fender necks to be pretty stable.
  15. strost

    strost Supporting Member

    Oct 2, 2008
    Blacksburg, VA
  16. Mine has been solid as a rock for fifty years.
  17. Phalex

    Phalex Semper Gumby Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    G.R. MI
    You should see a doctor! :ninja:
  18. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    Don't use the truss rod alone to compensate for weather. Do a real set-up or go to a trusted bass tech. Besides a set-up, get an inspection of the neck and new strings. The strings Fender installs now are the 7250ML Nickel-Plated Steel Bass Strings. N.B., these are the .045-.100 gauge set. :eyebrow:

    I'm pretty sure Fender started with the graphite bars in 2008 or 2009. Are you sure your bass is a 2009?
    Are you an Olympic weight lifter? :D ;)
  19. That's what she said.
  20. What about 1995? That seems to be the consensus from the Google searches I've read.
  21. wraub


    Apr 9, 2004
    ennui, az
    I'll have an IPA, please.
    Word. My MIJ Jazz has a very stable neck. Bought it back East, moved it out West, no tweaking required.