drums have always, to me, been loud. i'm think about getting the gretsch energy drum set dor my sister. the idea, bandwise, i we can't find a drum, even if we do ot's a matter of time until he or she flakes, so my 13 year old sister will be our new drummer. my brother, the guitarist, doesn't like the idea, because she has to learn. i have confidence that she'll learn fast, and teach herself, but mainly we need to be self dependent. the drumset, from what i hear is really good for beginners, i like the virgin bass drum. i don't know how good it is for rock, but my concern is it loud enough for our amps. from what i read, i good for small venues, so is my ampeg ba115hp, but my amp is also good for medium size venues. i maybe over complicating this, but i don't wanna buy a drum set for that price, to find out it's not what we need. yeah i could play it at the store, but the stores acoustics make it sound louder/better. my bro uses a line 6 spider 4 150 watt. also, can someone tell me what is considered small or medium size venues, i could tell what is large. here is one of our sounds. not our best performance and we are better now, and several diffetent styles of rock. http://www.reverbnation.com/unemploid you could tell me if this drumset is or isn't for our style of music, just saying this isn't our only style. i play a gretsch g5123b my bro plays a gibson sg, some people may ask. i'm going to leave out our effects, unless someone asks.