1. Welcome to TalkBass, the Premier Bass Player Community and Information Source. We've been uniting the Low End Since 1998!

    We're glad you've found us. Register a 100% Free Account to post and unlock tons of features.

Band members with no real purpose in the band

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by powderfinger, Feb 11, 2014.


  1. powderfinger

    powderfinger

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2009
    So last night I watched an old 38 Special live concert on YouTube (I was in an arena rock cheese mood). Anyhow, I always thought they were a tight band, and had pretty catchy songs and solid musicianship. However, in watching them live, I began wondering... what purpose does Donnie Van Zandt serve in this band? I'd say 2/3 of the time he runs around the stage with a mic stand (not singing or playing an instrument). The other times, he sings a little back up, and strums some acoustic guitar (whether it's actually plugged in, who knows).

    So anyhow, yeah... I decided they let him stand there bc he kind of looks like Ronnie Van Zandt, and wears a cool hat like his brother did. Oh, and his last name is Van Zandt. Beside that, I cant decide what his purpose in that band is. Anyone know?

    Anyone have any other bands in mind with members who serve no apparent function?
     
  2. 4001

    4001

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2004
    Location:
    Between Chicago and Milwaukee
    Janek Gers: Iron Maiden
     
  3. MazingerZ

    MazingerZ

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2013
    Location:
    Somewhere out there
  4. Tractorr

    Tractorr Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2011
    Location:
    Philadelphia
    I would say that it is likely a performance element for the bands. I tend to think it is silly but most people probably think it is just exciting seeing someone running around the stage.

    Janek Gers in Iron Maiden I think was kept around because one of the old guitarists came back and they were probably just too nice of guys to kick him out. Their newer stuff does actually have three guitar parts and some of the older songs now a have a rhythm part during the harmonized leads, but most of the show he just runs around doing windmills. I am sure he doesn't mind as the paychecks are still pretty darn good.
     
  5. Register to disable this ad
  6. kohntarkosz

    kohntarkosz Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2013
    Location:
    Edinburgh - Scotland
    Ronnie definitely had all the brains out of all the siblings. :ninja: Whilst true to his Southern roots, he was clearly a complex individual. Donnie seems a bit 'hold ma beer' by comparison...

    Useless band members...

    Linda McCartney. Clearly not a musical bone in her body. Her voice sometimes worked in harmony work though.

    Bez. Happy Mondays' dancer. Not even pretending to be contributing anything musical to the proceedings.
     
  7. Richland123

    Richland123

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Eddie Montgomery from Montgomery Gentry. He is the on the left in the photo. I don't know why he is there. He does not play anything and can't really sing. All he does is hold a mic stand most of the time.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. powderfinger

    powderfinger

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2009
    I'd also like to nominate the old man in the rocking chair in Arrested Development.
     
  9. dalkowski

    dalkowski

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Location:
    Massachusetts USofA
    First name that came to mind.

    Before him there was Paul Buchanan of Frankie Goes To Hollywood.

    After him there was Joel Gion of Brian Jonestown Massacre.

    And of course, Sid Vicious served no musical purpose to the Pistols.
     
  10. kohntarkosz

    kohntarkosz Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2013
    Location:
    Edinburgh - Scotland
    Carl Wayne of The Move seems to have watched himself get slowly overtaken by Roy Wood as the band progressed. It is odd watching music videos of him when Roy is singing.

    Jon Povey of the Pretty Things. He was their keyboard player, but did very little to add to the sound of the band.

    Falk U. Rogner of Amon Duul II. Coming from the hippy commune roots of the band, it was clearly more radical and anarchistic to claim to be in a band than to actually do anything worth while in the band. Falk U. Rogner's entire contribution to the band seems to be a few bleeps and bloops from a crude analogue synth (maybe even a simple wave generator from a laboratory) here and there. The band had a much better keyboard player. Falk did produce some album cover photography.
     
  11. poit57

    poit57

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2010
    Location:
    Oklahoma City, OK
    There was a guy in Mighty Mighty Bosstones who appears all he did was dance next to the lead singer. I only saw a handful of television appearances, so I'm not sure if he actually did anything else.
     
  12. vbchaos

    vbchaos

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2011
    Location:
    Groningen, The Netherlands
    Disclosures:
    Uncompensated endorsing user: fEARful
    wohwohwoh - he plays some awesome riffs live!! Could they do it with 2 guitarists? yes, they could, but if you look good, they split up the stuff. Jannick always plays the folk-stuff and accoustic stuff. I guess he is just better at it. Dave and Adrian have their specialties, too

    and the way they play the hookline of the trooper novadays is impossible with 2 guitarists
     
  13. Unrepresented

    Unrepresented Something Borderline Offensive Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2006
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    "Specialties" meaning, being able to solo using a neck pickup and being able solo a using bridge pickup, respectively?
     
  14. spectorbass83

    spectorbass83

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2005
    Location:
    canada
    This!
    All this guy did was skank dance on stage! I think it worked for this band though, it was their shtick. I wonder if he made a good living and how he was compensated? I don't think he did ANYTHING else other than skank dance.
     
  15. M0ses

    M0ses

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2009
    Location:
    Eastern Wisconsin
    Story goes, in the early day of the band, this guy was good friends with all of them, and came to all their shows and helped with the gear and everything. Problem was, he was under 21 at the time, so club owners wouldn't let him in. They surmounted this problem by making him an official member of the band who joined them on stage. Yep, all he does is dance.
     
  16. Bassisgood4U

    Bassisgood4U Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2014
    The "Insane in the brain" guy from Cyprus Hill..
    The guy with the moustache from Frankie Goes to Hollywood..
    Sid Vicious
     
  17. ga_edwards

    ga_edwards

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2000
    Location:
    UK, Essex
    going off on a tangent, how about band members whose talent is wasted in their current gig.

    I nominate Vivian Campbell. As much as I love Def Leppard (and have done for over 20 years, and will continue to), he has some fantastic guitar skills and a love of classic rock that rarely sees the light of day.
     
  18. mcarp555

    mcarp555

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2013
    Location:
    East Midlands, United Kingdom
    Your opinion, tho that doesn't mean you're right. Certainly Linda didn't start out as a keyboardist, and while she was never a Roy Bittan, everybody had to start somewhere. She got better over time. Besides, in the early days of Wings, she played an important part in holding down some simple background keyboard parts while Paul played bass. She certainly did more than walk around holding a mic stand for the whole gig.
     
  19. elgecko

    elgecko

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2007
    Location:
    Anasleim, CA
    This guy basically marches up and down the stage while Damian "Big Gong" Marley plays.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. ultra60

    ultra60 Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Location:
    Herndon/Chantilly Va.

    You have to go back to the 70's, and the first two 38 Special records. He was the lead singer. They probably realized in order to make money, they had to modernize the sound, and maybe lose some southern flair. Figure the guitar player writing the songs probably wrote for his own voice. So why is Van Zant still in the band? I guess because he's been there since day 1, and they are probably all very good friends.
     
  21. Oddly

    Oddly Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2014
    Location:
    Dublin, Ireland.
    Patti Scialfa in the E Street Band ?
     

Share This Page