Barts not so hot

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by emblymouse, Mar 29, 2014.


  1. emblymouse

    emblymouse I Dig A Pony Supporting Member

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    Advice please:help:

    I have a Bart equipped Jazz style bass with their 3 band 9v pre. I love the sound, but it has much less output than my other basses, even the passive ones. I have to turn up the amp so loud to get the normal volume that I introduce an unacceptable level of noise from my amp. The battery is good, I've checked the 2 trim pots on the circuit board, one seems to affect the the 'slap sound' you pull up on the Vol. pot for. I could not determine what the other was for, no real noticeble affect.
    Is this par for the course with the Bart's?
  2. Lo-E

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    That's not been the case for me. Barts, IME, have comparable output to other p'ups and preamps.
  3. inthebassclef

    inthebassclef Supporting Member

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    I couldn't give top notch advice, but what I can say is ever bass I have ever had with barts were always lower output than compared to my other active bass. In fact now that you mention it even my passive basses when I have the -15db engaged on my amp. I never really had to crank my amp though, maybe just a half volume notch on my head or 1 volume notch on my combo. hope this helps.
  4. Dragan

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    thats typical with Barts. but lovely sound.
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  6. mmbongo

    mmbongo Chicken Pot Pie. My three favorite things!! Supporting Member

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    Interesting...if you have a Bart preamp you shouldn't see a circuit board. Barts are normally just a black box with a gain control, which has enough gain on tap to get stupidly loud. Got a pic of the preamp?
  7. Lo-E

    Lo-E

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    I concur. The basses I own/have owned with Bart preamps had gobs of gain.
  8. Doug Parent

    Doug Parent Gold Supporting Member

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    Nor do Bart pre-amps have a "slap" switch by pulling the volume knob. Thats a Seymour Duncan pre-amp bro.

    Bart pickups typically have a wide freq response because of the lower output, there's no free lunch. Still with a typical NTMB preamp there's tons of gain.
  9. emblymouse

    emblymouse I Dig A Pony Supporting Member

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    You are so very correct! I am barking up the wrong pre tree:rollno:
  10. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather Supporting Member

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    Open up that preamp cavity. Bart pres have a gain control. Get a screwdriver and turn it up until you get the output you desire.
  11. mmbongo

    mmbongo Chicken Pot Pie. My three favorite things!! Supporting Member

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    Like Doug said, it sounds like a Seymour Duncan pre which does not have a gain control.
  12. LightGroove

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    and is VERY low output IME

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