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Bass cuts out when I have to play 16th notes?

Discussion in 'Live Sound [BG]' started by KissThaRing, Jan 27, 2014.


  1. KissThaRing

    KissThaRing

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    So yesterday I did my first full 1hr 20 min set, and had alot of fun playing with my guitar friend. It's just us two with a dedicated bass amp that runs drum loops from his Ipod (since we dont know any drummers)

    Anyways, I ran into some problems during a few of my songs where i play 16th notes, my sound kept cutting out at those parts. What causes that? I run active pickups (ibby sr300)and an acoustic b20 bass amp (i know,weak, but it gets the job done) and a zoom b3 pedal with some custom settings to get the tone I like. Is it a power issue? Cable issue? I run monster cables. Battery issue? Pedal being flakey? I have no idea but I would like to iron it out if possible for my next gig at the same spot. I also notice just in general at some points my bass would just cut out or go low, almost like it was gonna die, then it would get loud again. I dont run any DI, everything comes out my amp. Any input would be great.
     
  2. nukes_da_bass

    nukes_da_bass Banned

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    Try turning the gain down on the amp preamp as well as the bass and the pedals- sounds like you are running way to hot a signal into an underpowered amp so that when the signal is strongest (ie 16th notes) the preamp may be defeating to keep from frying.
     
  3. KissThaRing

    KissThaRing

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    Ok, thanks. My bass has 2 pickups, with seperate gain knobs. I had both of those pretty high, and my amp volume knob was about 9 o clock position (or 3 level). I was under the impression its better to get all the volume you can get from your bass actives and keep the amp volume low. Am I doing it wrong? Should I lower the gain at the picups and bump amp volume? The amp has no gain knob, just volume with some EQ knobs.
     
  4. BassCliff

    BassCliff

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    Hi,

    What are you doing playing 16th notes on a bass anyway?


    Thank you for your indulgence,

    BassCliff
     
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  6. KissThaRing

    KissThaRing

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    Haha, it's just a short burst before going into the change. I could just not do it, problem solved :D but its what I hear in my head and it sounds cool if it doesn't cut out.
     
  7. pfox14

    pfox14

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    The best way to know for sure is to take your bass to GC and play the same part through a big amp and see what happens.
     
  8. BassCliff

    BassCliff

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    Hi,

    All kidding aside... ;)

    Simplify your rig to isolate the problem. Start with plugging your bass straight into your amp. Then add in one pedal/effect at a time and see where the trouble shows up.


    Thank you for your indulgence,

    BassCliff
     
  9. Salamenster

    Salamenster

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    Maybe you're playing the 16th notes too agressively and you're hitting the pole pieces of the pick-up. Used to happen to me too.
     
  10. KissThaRing

    KissThaRing

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    Thanks guys, I will do what you say. I'm extremely amature, i'm sure its more of my playstyle then anything. I get super excited and tend to play way to hard, so thats quite possible salamenster. I will troubleshoot and try to isolate the problem.
     
  11. derrico1

    derrico1 Supporting Member

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    My first suspect would be the Zoom B3. It could be as simple as interaction between settings on the pedal's compression, synth, filters, or modulation FX.
     

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