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bass neck pocket too high

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by andysvec, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. andysvec

    andysvec Supporting Member

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    I have a modulus bassstar neck I'm building a new bass around, but ran into a problem and am looking for help.

    The neck is straight and frets good, have a brand new Fender body, a Babicz bridge, but it seems the neck pocket isn't deep enough as when put together the saddles are maxxed out and still not quite high enough and action is bit too low.

    A front shim won't do it, seems the heel on the neck is a 16th or more thicker overall than a standard fender type.

    Do you think I'd be better routing the body a tiny bit to lower the pocket, or shimming the bridge, or is this bridge notorious for being low and I'd be better getting a gotoh 201 or something?

    I'm thinking neck pocket work would be best, but I can't do that and have to find someone to do it correctly as even my luthier didn't want to attempt. Or maybe another quality bridge sits higher?
  2. BawanaRik

    BawanaRik Supporting Member

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    I would shim the bridge first and see how that works. It's reversible and a lot less work
  3. Precision101

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    I'd just get a bridge that sits higher. IMO I wouldn't go damaging the pocket of the neck because if you really screw up and it uneven then it just won't sit right. Try to find a bridge that will sit higher. Try a hipshot. They sit pretty high I think.
  4. andysvec

    andysvec Supporting Member

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    yeah, I'm thinking finding a bridge that sits bit higher would be easiest. Just traded my bass with a gotoh201 or else I'd try it, I know that one seemed higher than a badass or stock fender, need to look for another-
  5. mongo2

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    Different bridge or shim the bridge you have.
  6. 96tbird

    96tbird Supporter Supporting Member

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    Longer saddle screws; it's not like they are a rare commodity. Easy to find; no mods.
  7. Precision101

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    True!!
  8. fhm555

    fhm555 So FOS my eyes are brown Supporting Member

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    Recently had a local guy route a little extra depth in a neck pocket for me. Did a perfect job and it cost me $25.00. If you have a local Woodcraft store, they should have a referral service for local woodworkers capable of taking on the job.
  9. unclebass

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    longer saddle screws not an option on a babicz bridge, but I have used that option on fender bridges before.
  10. mongo2

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    Exactly, same here.
  11. fhm555

    fhm555 So FOS my eyes are brown Supporting Member

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    Yeppers, pull the 7/16" stock saddle screws and replace them with 1/2"
  12. T-Bird

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    Hi.

    It's nice when people actually read what people write, plain hilarious when they don't bother :).


    In Your place OP, I'd shim the bridge or look for another.

    Shimming isn't as bad as it sounds, Gibson has used that appoach on Flying-V's with Kahlers for example.

    If that was my project, I would route the neck pocket deeper, but then again I have a milling machine to do that with.

    Regards
    Sam
  13. Rich McCoy

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    Shim the bridge unless you never plan on selling the body, then I guess you could route the neck pocket a bit deeper.
  14. 96tbird

    96tbird Supporter Supporting Member

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    Yes, I admit I MISSED the fact it was a Babicz. I'm human.

    At least we have Sam here to always be right. :)
  15. jeffcarano

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    Disclosures:
    Co-founder, Babicz Guitars and Full Contact Hardware
    Babicz supplies higher profile saddles to customers who come across the deeper neckpocket, at no charge....just send an email to them through their site and ask for the high profile bass saddles, and reference "JC-TalkBass" in your email, and the address you need them shipped to.
  16. bobdabilder

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    That is awesome.

  17. pbassnut

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    I don't have any experience with the Babicz bridge so I can't speak to how high up those can go. However, I do have a lot of experience with the Gotoh 201 (which I think is a very good bridge) and between the thickness of the base and the larger than average size of the bridge piece barrels, they can be raised higher than most bridges on the market and I've used them successfully in two situations that had the same issue as yours.
  18. andysvec

    andysvec Supporting Member

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    thanks, will contact now!
  19. andysvec

    andysvec Supporting Member

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    thanks, if the babicz issue doesn't work out I'm going to get another gotoh 201 and try it.

    I remember getting a bridge years ago that came with a removable shim, might have been Schaller roller bridges 10-15 years ago? I think I had both a chrome and black one and never needed the shim, wonder if they still ship with that or maybe it was another brand...
  20. pfox14

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    I would rout the neck pocket deeper so you have enough extra room to not have the saddles maxed out. Having the saddles as high as they can go will not provide a very sturdy foundation for the strings.

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