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Best combo in the ~25 lbs / ~12 kg class?

Discussion in 'Amps [BG]' started by SneakerTrigger, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. SneakerTrigger

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    Hello!

    So, i'm looking for a combo to fill in the gap between headphones and my 20Kg-Setup (Markbass LM3 + 1x15" Cab)

    I had a Phil Jones Bass Cub, but i sold it because i didn't really like the sound ...

    Desired Specs:

    ~150W (more would be ok, but not necessary)
    ~12kg/26lbs (the lighter the better, but there don't seem to be many around) ... absolutely no more than 13kg.

    There are some around, but i don't really know any of them, so i'd just like to ask if anyone got some good advice ...
  2. GMC

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    have you tried a MarkBass 121P?
    12kgs, 1x12", 500w / 300w, Piezo horn....pretty much a perfect fit.
  3. fendersurfer

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    Best Power-Combo. Love it!
    Buy once, have forever. And your back will thank you, too.
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  5. Joe Louvar

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    I really like my tiny Gallien-Krueger MB110 bass combo amp - it sounds fantastic.

    Tiny: 14.5"H x 12.5"W x 11.5"D
    Lightweight: 21 lbs.
    Powerful: 100 Watts
    Affordable: $299.

    Check it out ~
    http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MB110

    Anyway, best wishes with your search.
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  8. SneakerTrigger

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    Hmm the Carvin line seems cool, but you can't get it anywhere here in Germany, unfortunately ...

    I also thought about trading in my Head and 15" for the MarkBass, but then again, the MarkBass might be a little too much for some situations ... like, if you play with an acoustic guitar and a violin only, or the like ...

    @Joe Louvar
    How does the MB110 hold up against other (predominatly un-amplified) Instruments?
  9. Joe Louvar

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    Good. Its not enough oomph to keep up with LOUD hard hitting rock/metal type drummers, but it hangs with dynamic mined drummers, percussion, and it easily hangs with un-amplified acoustic instruments, and etc. However, I've never used my MB110 in a concert orchestra setting, if that's what your asking. Its really powerful, but you can only ask so much from any ported 10" driver cabinet.

    PS: Also I'm pretty sure the G-K MB110 is the smallest in size and lightest weighing high powered (100W) 10" speaker bass combo being sold on the market today.
  10. SneakerTrigger

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    Yeah, it's really compact ... the Phil Jones Bass Cub was rated 100W as well, but it couldn't really keep up to louder percussion and the like ... which is why i asked.
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  12. Joe Louvar

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    Neither will the MB110, but my MB115 bass combo will - however, its 35lbs and much larger too. Your asking for to much from the really tiny lightweight combos.

    Anyway, good luck with your search.
  13. SneakerTrigger

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    Hmm well it wasn't horribly loud, and while with the PJB there was some pressure, presence was missing ... well, i'll find something one day ;)
  14. porterbass

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    I have owned several PJB/Phil Jones setups, including the Super Flightcase, a D600 head with (2) C4 cabs, and a bass cub for practice at home. I have previously owned a Markbass 121P and a GK 112. I had also tried the Markbass 1 x 8" combo for home practice and didn't like it at all.

    A Phil Jones Flightcase or Super Flightcase will do a great job for many gigs, but all of this is really subjective based upon the type of music, other instruments/amplification, and the venue size. Can you give us a better idea of these things?

    The Promethean line is a good value for small combos.

    I've also heard an Eden "WTX264 & EX110 260W 1x10 Bass Amp Pack" that sounded amazing for the size. I've also heard the very rare 1 x 8 version and it was equally great. I'm not sure how the size/volume falls with your needs, but there is also a 1 x 12" version.

    Good luck
  15. Mechanical

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    A second for the Carvin MB line. Best bang for the buck IMHO.
  16. SneakerTrigger

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    Well, mostly for the smaller occasions ... basically where the bass needs to blend in with other un-amplified instruments to create a balanced sound without a PA.

    So, not rock-oriented styles ... more like contemporary chamber music, klezmer, folk, and the like ...

    Oh, and i mostly play 5-String, fretless. But i don't expect an amazing Low B, of course ;)

    Think i'll try the TC BG250-208 next, seems most sympathic, apart from the Carvin MB10, which is not available in Germany, seemingly.
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    Well, if money is not an issue (it usually is, right?), I'd definitely consider this. It's a bit heavier than your limit, but small anyway. Here's a nice review. I am saving for mine, that's for sure.

    good luck in your search!
  18. SneakerTrigger

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    Aw yiss, the AER ...

    No, really, if money wouldn't be an issue, i'd get it ... but honestly i can't say this.

    Well ... some day, maybe ;)
  19. GMC

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    If you already have a LMIII head, why not get a NY121 cab and use your current head with it? It'll offer you an adjustable tweeter and simular performance / low weight offering as the combo.
    You can always add the NY121 to your regular rig and add another 3db plus the extra output headroom from your LMIII running into 4 ohms. I think it's probably the smartest thing to do in your circumstance. It also keeps your existing sound across all three load outs (1x12 / 1x15 / both)

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