Bolt on or Set Neck for This bass?

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  1. Max Pratt

    Max Pratt

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    Hello all,

    I have decided that my next build will be one similar to that of Kev if you have seen that. Anyways here is the design so far.

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    As you can see it is heavily influenced by wishbass, Kev, and an upright bass "harp" tailpiece.

    I have placed where the bolts would be but I am unsure whether this build should be bolt on or set neck.

    Oh and it will be hollow so yes that is an f hole.

    Thanks,

    Max Pratt
  2. Thomas Kievit

    Thomas Kievit Thou shall not F*** up the groove Supporting Member

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    Wow, nice design! :eek:

    Hmm... I think you would do fine with a set neck construction. I think making it Bolt on could work too, but looking at the design, I'm not sure if it would be very secure on the lower part of the neck (where the D / G strings are).
  3. Max Pratt

    Max Pratt

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    Thanks!

    I totally agree with you, and I think that the small contact area near the d and g strings is what led me to consider bolt on. Another option is a wide dovetail joint into the neck block, but I am not sure how well I could pull that off. :bag:
  4. 49sfine

    49sfine Supporting Member

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    Can't wait to see more! Very kool design ...
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  6. Jazz Ad

    Jazz Ad Mi la ré sol Gold Supporting Member

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    There isn't much sense in making a single cut a bolt-on.
    You'd be wasting a long joint between neck and body that can help stability.
  7. Dave Higham

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    But that long joint can be bolted... and help stability. Several luthiers do it.
  8. Jazz Ad

    Jazz Ad Mi la ré sol Gold Supporting Member

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    Yes, if you manage to create a heel along the upper horn you can bolt into it.
  9. reverendrally

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    Either would work fine. With a BO, you'd just want to place your screws well and get in as many as possible.
  10. Max Pratt

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    Thanks!!! This will hopefully eventually turn into a build thread!

    Here is the bolt placement and a closeup of the joint if it were bolt on. If set, the joint would be the same shape but without bolts (obviously).

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    Thanks,

    Max Pratt
  11. Thomas Kievit

    Thomas Kievit Thou shall not F*** up the groove Supporting Member

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    6 bolts. Looks very stable from that drawing. I think you can pull it off that way for sure ;)
  12. Thomas Kievit

    Thomas Kievit Thou shall not F*** up the groove Supporting Member

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    Then you don't know the single cut basses from Chris Benavente :p
  13. Max Pratt

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    Ok so I think i am going with a set neck because A. It will provide a better neck to body transition for more comfort, and B. As i have seen in many uprights with bolt on necks, if it breaks it wont break the neck in half but just separate the joint.

    ~max
  14. Thomas Kievit

    Thomas Kievit Thou shall not F*** up the groove Supporting Member

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    I respect your decision. Good luck with it! :p
  15. Max Pratt

    Max Pratt

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    Thank you!

    However I just had a thought...

    I use neck bending in almost almost all my performances to substitute a whammy bar, but I DO NOT want to have one on any instrument I own. Will a set neck just separate from the body when I do this?

    Thanks for all the help,

    Max Pratt
  16. Thomas Kievit

    Thomas Kievit Thou shall not F*** up the groove Supporting Member

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    Whew, that's a though one. Well I think if you use the right type of glue it would be okay to do it. If you watch out with the gauge of the strings, then the neck won't get too much tension, combined with the neck bending for the whammy.
  17. Max Pratt

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    I am using D'addario nylon tapewounds, like I do on every other bass I own, and hide glue.

    The strings are pretty light gauge, and they're nylon so not to high tension.

    Thanks,

    Max
  18. Max Pratt

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    My glue options include:

    Titebond liquid hide glue
    Old brown glue
    And that hot hide glue that comes in bags of pellets
  19. HeavyJazz77

    HeavyJazz77 Supporting Member

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    Bolt-ons are generally punchier. I personally prefer them to set necks or neck throughs.
  20. Hopkins

    Hopkins Supporting Member

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    I would use Titebond original. I have never used anything else and have never had a weak glue joint.
  21. Max Pratt

    Max Pratt

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    Thank you!!!

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