can i get cliffs sound with the 105q?

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  1. Unemploid

    Unemploid

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    i' m not trying to get cliff burton's sound, i'm just wondering can you. i wanna get the 105q. can the 105q make simular sounds as the dual bass wah?

    here is a video of the dual bass wah sounding simular to cliff tone: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DrA9t6Y-DYo

    here is a whom the bell tolls cover with dual bass wah with funk button on: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kHzS-g28R5g

    i haven't found a a cover of whom the bell tolls with the 105q. fyi, rage against the machine's bassist, and wolfegang van halen use the 105q.
  2. StayLow

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    Cooooool, I thought Trujillo was participating in some kind of farce at first. That dude's a ringer.

    I've played that using many wahs, and I really like the 105q in general too though any good wah will do, in my experience.

    You also need OD though. I recommend Ibanez PD7 since it has an EQ on it so no matter what your bass/string sound like this combo should get you in the ballpark. Plus it's cheap.
  3. E.J. T.N.T.

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    I have had the 105q for more than 10 years now and I just love it.

    To be honest I don't think it is in the same ballpark as the Morley since it leaves your bass frequencies unaffected, which gives a very unique tonal character, that actually some find very tame.

    That said in order to get a similar tone I think what comes before and after the wah is more important. Cliff used a rather mid-heavy tone and also a lot of distortion before the wah. I feel those are more important factors to getting closer to a similar tone.

    And by the way Trujillo (and actually everybody on this video) uses the 105q:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyubYR-K55c
  4. JBNeedsBeer

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    The 105q is a high pass filter. Cliff used a Morley which is a band pass filter. You really can't simulate that sound with a 105q
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  6. bassgod0dmw

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  7. Veldar

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    I would just like to say the Morley power wah is rubbish on bass, cuts all the lows.
  8. bassgod0dmw

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    Are you talking about the new version or the old Tel Ray version?
  9. nicc

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    If ur looking for the same kind of sweep and sound can't beat the power wah boost or even a mark tremonti wah does the trick, I find most other ways give like a farty sort of sound
  10. Veldar

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    New one man, I haven't the cash to drop on an old one.
  11. bassgod0dmw

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    They're not much more expensive than a new one, and in done cases much less
  12. nicc

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    Vintage morley wahs you can find every now and again quite cheap on eBay as for the OD a TS808 tubescreamer works well since its what cliff used in his later years.
  13. Unemploid

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    i'll be posting thread about wahs till i have the money to buy my own.
  14. Unemploid

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    i see bassgod is my number one fan.

    uneffected lowend is something i'm interested in a bass wah. at some point i'll own the bass crybaby, morley, and other wahs. i may have two wahs for rhythm and lead, like tm stevens.

    @33:40 tm stevens talks about his wahs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=--ZChaGSY9U

    btw, i'm not trying to copycat cliff tone. the 105q is nice, but can be tamed. the morley has it's sound, i feel it's not a deverse wah pedal.

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