CARVIN NEO CABINETS

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  1. LHbassist

    LHbassist

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    I'm curious, what happened to Carvin's neo line? Discontinued? Optional?
    I played through a friends BX 500 head and a BRX 10.2 4 ohm neo cabinet twice now, in two different rooms- and it is one of the best sounding small lightweight rigs I've ever heard. Yeah, really. That surprised me, because I usually do not like 2-10 cabinets at all, except for my VL-210 EA. I notice that the neo cabinet is currently not listed as available.
    On Carvin's website, there is just a 57 pound BRX cab, that likely has regular drivers.
    I liked it even better than my Euphonic VL-210, and it's half the weight.
  2. nukes_da_bass

    nukes_da_bass Banned

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    About 2 years ago there was a thread on TB which addressed the scarcity of neodymium. Apparently, China controls 90% or something close to that of the World neodymium supply. This made wholesale prices skyrocket.
    This may have something to do with availability of finished neodymium speaker cabinets.
  3. jeff7bass

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    Rather than boost up the prices and blow thier models, they went to the TS line of ceramic speakers in thier BRX cabs. Yeah the BX500/BRX10.2 makes for a great small rig. Clear, punchy and deep.
  4. maverick49

    maverick49 Gold Supporting Member

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    Yep - confirmed with Carvin myself awhile back what nukes and jeff7 said. I play the BX500+Sansamp RPM+BRX NEO 10.2 and I'm lucky if I can punch it up beyond 4 on the master in any regular size gig. :O

    Very punchy and tight. Easy on the back during load in/out. I can one arm it. That cab is way durable too. A couple of these are FS here on TB and worth checking out if you are looking to buy.
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  6. LHbassist

    LHbassist

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    I just bought a 10.2 NEO from a fellow TB'er. Now,
    I wait for delivery truck.
  7. Tunaman

    Tunaman Supporting Member

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    Wish they still sold the TRX NEO Subs! Those things shaved some SERIOUS weight off but back to ceramics... it sucks!
  8. jeff7bass

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    Big shots here in the USA are sitting on the NEO materials but are not taking advantage. Another victim of the "world economy" crapfest.
  9. Tunaman

    Tunaman Supporting Member

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    If I were China I wouldnt give up valuable materials for money the Federal reserve electronically creates in their account to fund the government.

    That 10-20 lbs difference can mean a lot to a back. Carvin is completely out of the neo situation right now & they dont sound inclined to go back anytime soon.
  10. tercesyrev

    tercesyrev Supporting Member

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    I just ordered a BRX10.2 NEO today (4/22/14). Carvin sells the the NEO drivers separately so I asked if they would install them instead of the TS drivers. Had to pay extra though.
  11. Hidesert

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    I have a near mint BRX10.4 NEO with cover for sale.
    PM me for info
  12. Tunaman

    Tunaman Supporting Member

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    Ha cool

    Lucky! I tried to so the same thing with the TRX subs but they had no more NEO, get em while they still have em
  13. bassman10096

    bassman10096 Supporting Member

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    Seems like neo drivers are still readily available, though at higher cost since the "neo drought". Plenty of manufacturers are using them, all the Greenboy designs use them, but they do affect price. Perhaps Carvin is just among the companies that believe the neo weight savings didn't justify the price increase. Mesa seems to have dropped its use of neo drivers in the PH212 cab. They used to list the speakers as neos and displayed weight specs on their site. Now they've dropped mention of the neos and list the cab weight as "TBA". Too bad about Carvin. I had my eye on the neo models and thought a TRX sub might save my aching back.
  14. Tunaman

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    One rep said 60 extra and when I went to order they had no 18 neo left!!! In a 4 in voice coil it makes a huge difference
  15. LHbassist

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    Well, I've used my BRX 10.2 neo several times now. I have three two ten cabinets, strangely, it's my least favorite cabinet type. I have a Peavey 210 Pro 4 ohm, and it sounds just like a Goliath Jr... and a highly touted, desirable older Euphonic Audio VL-210, and now the Carvin. The Euphonic is clearly the most articulate and monitor- like in it's sound. But it has two serious issues for me. One, is that it weighs about 75 pounds, and the other, is that it cannot push a lot of air into a space before it farts out. The Carvin kills both on it's light weight- about 50 pounds- and that it will indeed fill a room with surprisingly loud, clear, clean bass- and with little or no distortion. There is a little strangeness at high volume created by the cabs tuning, but not bad. I brought the BRX 10.2 to a gig when I first got it. I also brought my 8 ohm, 1200 watt Avatar 4-10 Neo with the Eminence long throw 10's. First, I put the BRX on top of the 4-10, and plugged my Shuttle 9.0 head into it. I was disappointed by what I heard. So, I played the first set through the Avatar. Good sounding cabinet. Then, I remembered that every time I played through a BRX 10.2, and was impressed- the cabinet was standing on its' side!
    So, second set- I unplugged the Avatar, stood the BRX up, and plugged into the BRX. All I can say is, WOW. I couldn't believe it.
    I've never seen a cabinet do that before. I played a week long casino gig in Elko, Nevada.. not a loud gig, but loud enough- and the BRX sounded great. Both with a 4 string jazz bass, and one of my big 5's- the one in my Avatar photo (not the cabinet!)
    It has 3 Alembic wmxy pickups and Stanley Clarke circuit. A GREAT cab. P.S., with a Carvin BX 500 head, it kills.
    I'm going to try to find a BRX 10.4 neo- early version with the lightweight speakers.
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  16. Orpheus55

    Orpheus55 Supporting Member

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    I've had a similar experience with my Hartke HL500 and my Avatar 210 neo. I stand it up vertically, amp on top, and the thing really sings. Specs look a bit like the carvin too. I was considering a Carvin 15 cab, but I'm liking the way the 44 lb. 210 works for me, especially since we always have PA support.
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  17. LHbassist

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    Last night- 7-23-14, I went to an OUTDOOR jam at the Sands in Reno, Nevada. There it was, the ORIGINAL Bx 500- BRX 10.2 neo rig that I was first impressed by! And, yeah, even outdoors, it is an incredible sounding little rig. I wanted for not much, other than maybe a second cabinet. NO farting, NO distortion. I soloed through it- a Fender jazz bass with Nordstrand's and flats. Still just surprises the crap out of me. Think about this for a moment- This rig weighs less by about 40 pounds, than even the lightest B-15, or other combos out there by maybe 25. The last time I was at that jam, a different bassist had a Genz Benz 200 watt 1-15, that sounded like a bass kazoo. I hated it. Some combos make me want to take out a sledgehammer and put them out of my misery. I use my BRX 10.2 with a Genz Benz Shuttle 9.0, and it sounds great. I'm just mindful that I'm giving it a lot more power than the rated wattage. Seems to handle it just fine.
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  18. sonic 7

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    I use 2 10.2 neos stacked vertical , ( I put small chevron stacking corners on them) I can't imagine a better sounding rig. Yes I know they are out there , Fearless, Berg . ..etc. but they must be really incredible if they are that much better.
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