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DB bassist you cant miss?

Discussion in 'Bassists [DB]' started by Funkize you, May 25, 2004.

  1. Funkize you

    Funkize you Guest

    Nov 4, 2003
    Westminster Ca.
    Hey all, I was wondering what DB bassist's you could reccomend EVERY bassist should know of? (Get that?) Like almost all bassists know of Jaco Pastorius, alot know of Victor Wooten. So who is an "Essential" bassist that would help understand the Full capabilities and Scope of a DB bass?

    The only player I have listened to is John Patituchi, But I have no idea what you guys think of him.

    Thanks a lot

    Full of questions, Tim S.
  2. There's a ton of them. But the one that comes up the most is probably Ray Brown. He is on several hundred records and if you've ever listened to jazz you've probably heard him without realizing it. Get an Oscar Peterson Trio record and you'll hear one of the masters.

    Probably the most analogous to Jaco would be Scott LaFaro. He was an amazing bassist who was on the way to revolutionizing the instrument but died way too young (21 or 22 I beleive). Pickup the Bill Evans Trio - Live at the Village Vangaurd to hear LaFaro.
  3. Mingus.

    ...so much soul coming out of that bass it will make you :crying:
  4. Nick Ara

    Nick Ara

    Jul 22, 2002
    Long Island, NY
    Well, there are loads of double bassists you should know about. I think I'd have to ask you if you are inquiring because you are:

    1. just a beginner on DB
    2. looking to hear "amazing chops" or good "basics"
    3. seeking a specific style / genre (jazz, orchestral, b-grass)

    For a beginning jazz player, I'd recommed listening to bassists that were:

    1. well recorded (you need to hear things cleanly and clearly)
    2. play fundamentally solid, with little embellishment
    3. play familiar tunes .....jazz standards worked for me.

    That said, my all time favorite is Oscar Pettiford on T. Monk's "Plays Duke Ellington". This is a short record (approx 35 minutes) so you won't be overwhelmed with material and the songs seem to follow chord charts fairly close.

    Of course, most anything from Ray Brown would also be a healthy alternative, too.

    Finally, don't forget the great opportunity to check out the TBDB cd that's being compiled right now. The contributors are excellent musicians as well as approachable cats who have helped me immeasurably in recent years. :D
  5. Funkize you

    Funkize you Guest

    Nov 4, 2003
    Westminster Ca.
    Yes! I am new to DB, but have played BG and Flute for awhile, I am pretty much looking for all of the above, and I do listen to lots of Jazz, but its Newer(ish?) stuff using BG, and Fusion.

    So what do you guys think of John Patituchi? Thanks again!

    Full of Questions,

    -Tim S.
  6. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Supporting Member

    Apart from those mentioned, I would have to add Ron Carter and Paul Chambers, but to cover the particular question asked, I would say that NHOP is someone who can do the kind of things that Jaco did, but on DB - so can Christian McBride - listen to his version of Jaco's "Havona"!!

    But on DB it is a lot more a matter of taste - so some people prefer good solid tone and great feel, over the spectacular chops of someone like NHOP - and all Jazz enthusiasts seem have their favourites.

    And Classical fans will say Edgar Meyer, Latin fans might say Cachao...etc. etc.!! ;)
  7. Phil Smith

    Phil Smith Mr Sumisu 2 U

    May 30, 2000
    Peoples Republic of Brooklyn
    Creator of: iGigBook, iGigBook Mobile, iGigBook Index, iGigBook Pager
    Bruce, what's Jaco got to do with DB? We know you love him, but you don't have to bring him up in every thread. :D
  8. Johnny L

    Johnny L

    Feb 14, 2002
    Austin, TX
    Renauld Garcia-Fons for sure. Gorgeous vibrato, and he seems to pretty much do it all.

    You should do some free snooping on the Liben website and listen to Rabbath do some Proto music, if you want to hear what many bassists have to be able to do now to get attention somewhere near the scale of Jaco, Pattituchi, or Wooten in the DB world.
  9. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Supporting Member

    It wasn't me who brought him up - it was the original question, asked by the person who started this thread!! (see above) :meh:
  10. Sam Sherry

    Sam Sherry Inadvertent Microtonalist Supporting Member

    Sep 26, 2001
    Portland, ME
    Euphonic Audio "Player"
    OK, folks have been much too polite in avoiding the list. Here's mine. In more-or-less chronological order, try:

    Jimmy Blanton with Duke Ellington 1939-40 -- Generally recognized as the first guy to really wake up the DB in jazz

    Oscar Pettiford -- His stuff from the 40s and 50s will still make your jaw drop

    Paul Chambers -- The Man for walking. Get the stuff with Miles Davis

    Ray Brown -- As noted, your can't go wrong

    Scott LaFaro -- A visionary, dead too young

    Ron Carter -- The Man for walking. Get the stuff with Miles Davis

    Stan Clarke -- Get Chick Corea's Light as a Feather, grab a cold one and watch out!

    Stafford James -- Get Dexter Gordon's Homecoming and learn about agressive 1970s backing

    Niels Henning-Orsted Pederson -- NHOP has enormous chops

    Michael Moore -- Risky, innovative improvisations wrapped in a package so pretty you don't even notice. In response to your post, guy, if someone said that Michael Moore was the one bassist I could listen to for the rest of my life, I could live with it.

    Christian McBride -- As noted

    Scott Colley -- Check out his work with Chris Potter

    In the classical realm, don't miss Edgar Meyer, and take a stop over at www.GaryKarr.com

    I've left off many fine players. No doubt that will be corrected shortly. HAVE FUN, GUY

    Search for the threads. You can't have looked.

    Stop confusing us with the facts!
  11. Just for the record:

    That's Patitucci.

    Ah, that feels better.
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    I've left off many fine players. No doubt that will be corrected shortly. HAVE FUN, GUY

    a list! oh goodie...

    let's not forget two other of the older transitional guys, both are masters

    Milt Hinton

    George Duvivier

    There's a lot to be learned from those two cats.
  13. James Hart

    James Hart

    Feb 1, 2002
    Endorsing Artist: see profile
    I'm neither an URB player nor an expert in anyway...

    my ears like:

    Chris Wood ( www.mmw.net )
    Sebastian Steinberg (ex soul coughing bassist)
    Dave Holland
    Christian McBride

    Chris & Sebastian might not be the most so-fist-i-cated bassists down here in DB land, but if someone gets enjoyment from it... it can't be wrong. They both inspire me to play!

  14. Nick Ara

    Nick Ara

    Jul 22, 2002
    Long Island, NY
    Hmmmm, Sam, that sounds funny coming from a LAWYER!
    :smug: :smug: :smug: :smug:
  15. Lovebown


    Jan 6, 2001
    Make sure you check out three of the giants; Dave Holland, Eddie Gomez, Miroslav Vitous.

    Exciting stuff..

  16. TJC


    Jun 28, 2002
    Los Angeles

    ...for SURE. Absolutely incredible.
  17. Michael Glynn

    Michael Glynn

    Feb 25, 2004
    In addition to all the fine bassists already mentioned, I would put on your "don't miss" list:

    Red Mitchell - You will be hard pressed to find a more melodic soloist on ANY instrument.

    Sam Jones - Incredibly swinging bass lines and a great soloist as well. Check out his stuff with Cannonball Adderley.
  18. Funkize you

    Funkize you Guest

    Nov 4, 2003
    Westminster Ca.
    Thanks alot you guys! All these new CD's to buy!
  19. Funkize you

    Funkize you Guest

    Nov 4, 2003
    Westminster Ca.
    WOW, I also forgot to mention, the other night I was listening to the DB TB sampler, and I started eventually playing with it, using one of my BG basses, and I played WAY different Than I every have, Like I was a totally different person! It was pretty cool!

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