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Dean John Entwistle Hybrid Bass - Trans Brazil

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by lfmn16, Jan 12, 2014.


  1. lfmn16

    lfmn16 Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2011
    charles town, wv
    I did a search (both TB and the interweb) but didn't find out much about these. Anyone have a Dean John Entwistle Hybrid Bass - Trans Brazil? I'd be interested in any information you would care to share. I'm looking for people that actually own or owned one. Thanks.

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  2. Beverlyvista

    Beverlyvista

    Nov 25, 2009
    I've got one. Out being set up and having its Guitar Center wall condition fixed. Ask a question and I'll try to answer it.
     
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  4. MXP553

    MXP553

    Dec 6, 2013
    Indiana, USA
    Is it head stock heavy like a Tbird? Is it solid with just a 3 bolt neck joint? Tone?
     
  5. Beverlyvista

    Beverlyvista

    Nov 25, 2009
    It's a little neck heavy, but it's quite manageable. Not a total dive bomber. The three screw neck attachment seems perfectly stable. The tone, through my little SWR is not John's, even with Rotosound Swing Bass strings -- But that just may be my laziness and inexperience with the EMG passive pickup/active EQ setup. It does sound good in any event, and with tweaks can probably approximate Ox tone. Look out for rough fret ends, not affecting play, but, you know, built to a price. Guitar Center moved a bunch of seconds through as used pieces in the last few months. They're stamped CF between the 21st and 22nd fret. They're usually priced 429 for black and 439 for trans amber. But if you pay attention to local sales or you have a pet salesman they can be nailed down for 239/249. At that price, how can you not give in?
     
  6. Beverlyvista

    Beverlyvista

    Nov 25, 2009
    Also, be aware the current model has been changed, apparently, neck wise for 2014. There's a divot at the base of the neck for truss rod access that's not in the first release. Don't know if that indicates any other kinds of changes. At least it means this light selling model still survives
     
  7. David Henry

    David Henry Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2000
    Bend, Oregon
    Those 3 screws are only to attach the cover plate over a recessed 4 screw neck joint.

    It has a nice tone, but also quite a bit of neck dive.
     

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  8. lfmn16

    lfmn16 Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2011
    charles town, wv
    Thanks for getting back to me. Sorry it took so long to answer. I actually bought one of these basses and was wondering what other people thought of them. I put a new set of strings on it and set it up but the tone is very woody and dark. Not a log of high end. How do you find the tone on yours?
     
  9. Beverlyvista

    Beverlyvista

    Nov 25, 2009
    Gumbystuff; stupid of me not to have examined that neck attachment thingie closer. I still think the neck dive issue is minimal compared to a lot of basses. And , yeah, if might not be as bright as some, and certainly many of John's tones were trebly as hell, but I've found between the EQ, my SWR and an elderly zoom fX box I can get close, certainly to his late tones. The early longhorn basses through Marshall guitar amps? That's beyond me.
     
  10. Neck dive? It's a T-bird style. :p Of course it's going to have neck dive, unless you move the strap pin closer to the 12th.
     
  11. Beverlyvista

    Beverlyvista

    Nov 25, 2009
    If you're looking for an Entwistle hybrid, check your local (or online) Guitar Center. What were once static at $429 (nominally used, but just dumped by Dean) are moving fairly comprehensively down to 299-249. Try to find the trans Brazil instead of the black, but still, it's not the worst thing you can buy at the price.
     
  12. jacoby75

    jacoby75

    Mar 11, 2010
    Detroit, MI
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    Thought I'd revive this thread because I'm considering picking up a dean entwistle hybrid five string (non-us).

    Any more you can tell me about the tone? There is only one video on you tube of a four string. Anybody have a five? How would you describe the tone? Is it dark like a thunderbird, or does it have a more even frequency response? I don't care about comping john's tone. I just want a fenderbird, but can't afford a cataldo, and epiphone thunderbird fives are weak. I'd probably replace the pickups with thuderbuckers in the dean.

    Any thoughts you can give me on the tone would be much appreciated. Thanks.
     
  13. lfmn16

    lfmn16 Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2011
    charles town, wv
    I wouldn't buy one without trying it out. I had a four string and was very under-whelmed. Not a BAD bass, just kind of, meh.
     
  14. jacoby75

    jacoby75

    Mar 11, 2010
    Detroit, MI
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    Good to know, thanks. I figured for the price and the brand it would probably be meh. Thanks.
     
  15. if its the EMG-HZ that are the achilles heel, status pickups are pretty cheap (2003 humbuckers are £51 each) and are standard size soap bars..... pop a set of those bad boys in and well if they were good enough for john himself.......
     
  16. jacoby75

    jacoby75

    Mar 11, 2010
    Detroit, MI
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    Yeah, I'd probably plan on changing the pickups to gibson or thunder ranch thunderbuckers. But good pickups in a crap bass won't make it sound THAT much better. I'd love to play one first, but I live in small town michigan with no decent stores for miles. If it's got a decent neck and solid body, I reckon the right pickups could make a difference.
     
  17. I doubt they will be junkers just bad pickup choice.... Im not a fan of what i have heard from those emgs.... Not a fan of any emgTBH
     
  18. jacoby75

    jacoby75

    Mar 11, 2010
    Detroit, MI
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    Thanks. Might be worth a shot. I just found out they're discontinued anyway. Which explains why the only place I've seen it is on eBay.

    I also wanted a five string p/j, and just ordered a Schecter on clearance for stupid cheap. So if it's any good I'll probably just order another and put the thunderbuckers in that. It would be more similar to a Mike Lull PT5 (though clearly not in quality) which I'd prefer in some ways anyway. Thanks for the feedback.
     
  19. Wow i knew dean only hsd a short liecence but it seems to have ran up quick. :( ah well looks like im not getting the standard black spider :( it would have been nice tl go as a back up to the status.
     
  20. jacoby75

    jacoby75

    Mar 11, 2010
    Detroit, MI
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Guitars, DR Strings
    There are still some random Entwistles floating around out there. But if you find one you'd best snag it. He told me specifically that the 5 has been discontinued. It's possible they'll still have the others available.
     
  21. godofthunder59

    godofthunder59 Godofthunder bassist for Knight Patrol Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2006
    Rochester NY USA
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing Cataldo Basses, Whirlwind products, Thunderbucker pickups
    Thunderbuckers will give you JAE tone in spades.
     



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