Dean Markley spec mess

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by uOpt, Jan 28, 2014.


  1. uOpt

    uOpt Supporting Member

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    Can somebody give an update on the base specs on Dean Markley strings?

    They have a set named "roundcore" which obviously is round core, and probably nickel plated steel (nps).

    Then there is "super round" which according to BSO are round core and stainless steel (ss).

    They have the "blue steel" (cyro treated) in both ss and nps, presumably with a hex core?

    The "nickelsteel" (on guitar my favorites except for the gauge choices) and obviously nps and presumably hex core?

    There there is "helix" (their twisted thing) in both nps and ss, is that hex core?

    Finally the SR2000s which are tapered at the bridge and sound-wise obviously SS.

    Or as a table:
    Code:
    DM roundcore            round   nps
    DM super round          round   ss?
    DM bluesteel            hex?    ss?     cyro treated
    DM bluesteel nps        hex?    nps     cyro treated
    DM helix SS             hex?    ss      twisted
    DM helix NPS            hex?    nps     twisted
    DM nickelsteel          hex?    nps     my guitar equivalent
    DM sr2000s              hex?    ss      bridge taper
    
    Does this look correct?

    I really don't like these puzzles. One of the strongest reasons why I often end up with DR is that they clearly state what you get. (except DR has messy naming)
  2. JustForSport

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    You're correct on the round-cores, also, NPS are round-core,
    and Helix are hex-core, side-to-side compression wound.
    Don't know about the others.
  3. SLaPiNFuNK

    SLaPiNFuNK Gold Supporting Member

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    Everything hex except for the nps round core.

    Super rounds are discontinued


    On their site they have some incorrect gauges for what is actually in the sets. Specifically on the helix light sets
  4. mmbongo

    mmbongo Chicken Pot Pie. My three favorite things!! Supporting Member

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    Not really.

    Beams = round core.
    Riders = hex core.
    ExtraLife= round core.

    Can't get much simpler :)
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  6. SLaPiNFuNK

    SLaPiNFuNK Gold Supporting Member

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    Pretty much everyone just makes hex core...

    Except:

    DR - Hi-Beams / SunBeams / NEON and Extra Life
    Dean Markley NPS Round Core
    Fodera Stainless Steel or Nickel
    __ _____ = New set coming soon
    Thomastik-Infeld = Jazz Flats / Jazz Rounds

    hehe ;)
  7. GK Growl

    GK Growl

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    Now I'm curious! No hints?
  8. uOpt

    uOpt Supporting Member

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    Yeah but for the ss/nps one it gets messy. For the round cores they have different names for ss and nps (sunbeams, hi-beams).

    For hex cores they use the same name for ss and nps, lo-riders. You can see people on this very forum mix them up all the time, but of course there is a large difference.

    Besides, there really is nothing "lo" about strings that have a hex core and SS windings.
  9. mmbongo

    mmbongo Chicken Pot Pie. My three favorite things!! Supporting Member

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    Technically they are called Nickel Lo Riders and Steel Lo Riders, so no confusion there :)

    They are called Lo Riders because you can lower them way down on the fretboard without buzzing...like a Low Rider on the road! This is because of the hex core, which all 'Riders' have.

    Yeah perhaps it could be simpler :)
  10. uOpt

    uOpt Supporting Member

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    Actually it is worse. I just spotted that with guitar strings DR is using the term "hi-beams" for "nps on hex", although in bass it means "ss on round".

    I want to slap somebody in there silly :)
  11. uOpt

    uOpt Supporting Member

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    Did anybody try the Nickelsteel?

    As mentioned in the other thread, I think I won't explore regular nickel plated steel wound strings anymore. However, I wonder whether Dean Markley's Nickelsteel are really just vanilla nps-on-hex or something special?

    I'd like to try them because Mike Mills is said to use them, but if they sound just like all the other nps-on-hex there is no point.
  12. SLaPiNFuNK

    SLaPiNFuNK Gold Supporting Member

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    Believe it or not the nickel steels are on their best seller lists. I don't sell that many of them but over the last few days some have been selling.

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