Drivers with great SPL for low powered amps

Discussion in 'Amps [BG]' started by webmonster, Jun 28, 2013.

  1. webmonster


    May 19, 2013
    New Zealand
    I saw a thread here recently about JBL 15's and I was very interested to see that the E130(?) has an exceptional SPL of 105dB. Very handy for older low-powered amps like my Jansen 75 or Selmer 50!

    Do correct me if I am wrong, but the E130 is not being made anymore and is expensive to re-cone.

    Is there a current production 15" driver with similar sensitivity?

    I've also got a late 1960's Jansen 2x12 cab that I'd like to replace the drivers in - any suggestions for 12" drivers with similarly good sensitivity?
  2. E140 aren't too hard to find in old PA cabs here in NZ.
  3. jnewmark

    jnewmark Supporting Member

    Aug 31, 2006
    Stax 1966
    Play guitar.
    Was'nt the E130 a guitar speaker ? The E140 was the bass MI driver, and they pop up on Ebay regularly. Even better, imho, is the K140, which has a little better Xmax, and has a sweeter tone for bass.
  4. ezstep


    Nov 25, 2004
    north Louisiana

    Expensive compared to purchasing a new, raw speaker? Really?
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  6. alexclaber

    alexclaber Commercial User

    Jun 19, 2001
    Brighton, UK
    Director - Barefaced Ltd
    Not so handy if you want your low-powered amp to produce any bottom - sensitivity that high from a single direct radiating 15" means the driver is very heavily electrically damped and won't do anything in the lows.

    If you want to use a low-powered amp at reasonable SPL then you'll need plenty of cone area and a large cab.
  7. Frankiebass59


    Feb 1, 2008
    I had Don Oatman (LDS) build me a couple of single 15" cabinets loaded with Eminence Delta Pro 15A's. 101.6 db sensitivity for my 100 watt B-15 clone and they sound great. Plenty of volume to gig with compared to my other high power lower sensitivity cabinets. And they even stand up to and sound teriffic with my Aguilar DB750. Highly recommended, and Don builds a killer cabinet.
  8. It is unclear what you mean by "exceptional SPL of 105dB". Is that a maximum level or sensitivity rating ?

    These days Faital speakers seem to be considered similar to JBLs in quality and tone. Eminence also has some speakers that are very high quality and there are others. You should be aware that they are a bit on the expensive side of the spectrum.
  9. iualum


    Apr 9, 2004
    LDS is aces.
  10. webmonster


    May 19, 2013
    New Zealand
    Thanks for all your responses. I've found the original thread I read where John_K compares several JBL 15" drivers for tone and specs:

    From what I can find JBLs are expensive to recone and they only supply kits to their authorised repair agents. In 2011 John_K gave an example of a JBL recone cost of USD$264-$300.
    I've recently had an unknown student in my Music Dept. make a hole in a JBL speaker for a guitar amp. Advice I've had from my P.A. & sound company is that there are two JBL repairers in NZ and it will be expensive.
  11. ::::BASSIST::::

    ::::BASSIST:::: Progress Not Perfection.

    Sep 2, 2004
    Vancouver, BC Canada
    How does the Eminence 3015HO compare?

    Seems fairly efficient from my experience.
  12. webmonster


    May 19, 2013
    New Zealand
    Yes, that is the one I've got my eye on. I was wondering if there was anything more efficient available.
  13. AstroSonic

    AstroSonic Supporting Member

    Dec 10, 2009
    rural New Mexico
    +1 There is really no getting around this.

    Pick a driver (8, 10, 12 or 15 inch) with the tone you want and with moderate sensitivity (93-98db/w/m). Then use multiples. You could make stackable cabs (like 2x10's or 2x12's).
  14. 1n3


    Sep 13, 2007
    The 3015 is about as sensitive as a JBL E-140; ~100dB (1W/1M). But those are average sensitivity numbers, and don't tell the whole story. As Alex Claber has said, the E-130 gives away low-frequency performance to achieve it's high average-sensitivity number.
  15. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Don't just TalkBASS - PlayBASS! Supporting Member

    A lot of folks don't look at frequency response graphs; usually the high sensitivity is in the mid range area with bass response way down by comparison.
  16. In the case of the 3015, 1 KHz, which is usually where sensitivity is measured, is within its "flat" range (+/- about 2dB) and this is true of many speakers although some speakers are not that flat. Many speakers also have a rise in response that begins just above 1kHz, including the 3015. BTW - that site, US Speaker, has response curves for many speakers.