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Eden Ex112 to use as standalone?

Discussion in 'Amps [BG]' started by Lowendluver, Mar 28, 2014.


  1. Lowendluver

    Lowendluver

    Jan 31, 2014
    London
    Hi there,

    This thread is to ask for your opinion, so feel free to share your experience with an Eden Ex112 bass cabinet.

    I've been playing the bass guitar for less than a year. I'm in four-piece rock band — loud drums, two noisy guitarrs :)

    I'm after my first stack to use for rehearsal and small pub gigs in London.

    I'm sold on a markbass black line 250 amp, but I've been struggling to find a lightweight cabinet to go with it.

    After a couple of weeks researching, I'm just about to buy an Eden Ex112 cabinet (http://www.edenamps.com/products/eseries/cabs/EX112.html)

    The black line 250 is a 250-watt at 4oms. Eden EX112 is 300w and Eden makes this model in both 4ohms and 8ohms

    I'm leaning towards the 4ohms so be able to get the the full wattage from the amp, so the question is.

    I have to make a decision soon because I need the rig for May. The band is the headline act in a gig in Barfly in Camden!

    1) Would the black line with the 4ohms cab do the job?
    2) Should I get the 8ohms instead, so I can have a chance to add a second cab — I don't think I would grow to bigger venues anytime soon though — how loud could I get with the 8ohms cab
    3) Should I keep on looking for a lightweight 1x12 cab? If so, what would you recommend under £300.

    I'm looking for a lightweight cab for ease of transport.

    I look forward to check out what you have to say!
    Cheers,
     
  2. I love 12's. My opinion here is to go with an 8 ohm because:
    1) As you pointed out - the opportunity to add on another cab - that you WILL need to do eventually. A single 12 is fine for practice and very small venues - however, it will lack articulation when you crank up the volume and more speaker space, the better (plus, it will better utilize your volume). A 4 ohm is good if you have a 4x12, 6x10, 8x10, or a 2x15 - where you know that you will have enough speakers that you will not be adding another cabinet (IMO).
    2) A speaker will always be able to push more wattage than it can mechanically handle. The mechanical/efficiency of a single 12 inch speaker will vary slightly (depending on quality), but expect only about 125-150 watts of useful sound out of it. This is the argument also for more speakers (and extra 12). You can push your single 12 to more volume, but then its efficiency/sound/tone starts degrading noticeably.
     
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  4. goran

    goran

    Dec 17, 2002
    Croatia
  5. CL400Peavey

    CL400Peavey Supporting Member

    Nov 7, 2011
    Grand Rapids Michigan
    Unless you have a large, efficient cab, I am not sure a ~250 watt amp is going to cut it. With a 112, there is no gig I would play with a rig that small.

    Even with two 112's I am not sure you are going to have enough head room to make that rig work in a loud band.

    I would encourage you to look for used 115's. More sensitivity, use will stretch your budget.
     
  6. Lowendluver

    Lowendluver

    Jan 31, 2014
    London
    Thanks, guys, but I'm a bit lost here. The rig on the stage is use for you to be able to hear yourself, right. Most pubs provide PA support so that's what "cut the mix" for the audience, right?
     
  7. Ahhhh, that is to open another can of worms and another thread!!! Yes, you are correct.
     
  8. CL400Peavey

    CL400Peavey Supporting Member

    Nov 7, 2011
    Grand Rapids Michigan

    Depends. I have never played london. :D

    In the area I play, if (and its a big if) there even is a PA provided, it doesnt have subs so my rig is carrying the room for bass. If there isnt a PA, and we bring our own, it depends on the room. 90% of the time it makes more sense for me to carry the room than bring the extra gear for subs.
    YMMV.
     
  9. Onstage is not the true test of a rig. Because of advantages listed such as FOH support, monitors, etc, most rigs on stage are fine. At rehearsal is where things get iffy. Personally, learned thru experience, I buy my rigs to survive rehearsals. If yer lucky, yer band mates will help in that runnin to the volume you put out, not makin you rise to theirs. In my experience? That's a tough task. You will need more, in my opinion, than 250watts anna 1x12...
     
  10. goran

    goran

    Dec 17, 2002
    Croatia
  11. Lowendluver

    Lowendluver

    Jan 31, 2014
    London
    I can see what you mean Bull, as so what CL and The Nameless have as well. I can see now that the 8ohms would be a smart purchase then...

    In rehearsal we use a Peavey Escort 3000, and I hate the way my guitar sounds, I desperately need my own power!
     
  12. How would running 2 ex112-8's at 500 watts work out? I would think that'd be able to stand up to a rock band setting, no? :confused:
     
  13. Yes! It would. I an my friends use similar setups as a 212 cab is bout the most popular configuration here. I used an SWR SM900 bridged into an 8ohm 212 for a long time. 550w, but really the same. Two single twlves would prolly get you a bit more output, but yeah, I have evidence that should be enuff. Heh. I do know guys who need more... But I think you'd have a good platform ta start off with there.
     
  14. Zooberwerx

    Zooberwerx Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 21, 2002
    Virginia Beach, VA
    Sounds like you're working under some budgetary constraints...aren't we all? Also appears as if you're in a bit of a rush as you have an upcoming gig which works to your disadvantage. That being said...

    I would set my sights on an amp with more power, maybe ~400+ watts, to accommodate a second 8 ohm enclosure when resources allow. The 112 will be great but will fall short given the "sonic wars" which may ensue. A second 112 would give you a fighting chance. Is there any way you could borrow a second enclosure to fill the void for the interim?

    Feel free to substitute 112 with 1 X 15, 2 X 10, etc. The same principles apply.

    Riis
     
  15. Lowendluver

    Lowendluver

    Jan 31, 2014
    London
    Hi guys, the hunt for a head/cab is over. I ended up buying the Markbass Little Mark 250 Black Line and the Eden EX112. On rehearsal it sounds gorgeous!

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  16. freshyk

    freshyk Supporting Member

    Aug 23, 2005
    Australia
    Lowendlover, I wonder how you've been getting along with your ex112. Is it working for you in jams and gigs?
     
  17. drolet1bass

    drolet1bass

    Dec 27, 2012
    Hey! I don't want to revive an old threat here but I have a little mark II and I'm also eying a ex112 so I was wondering how was your set up keeping up with your rock band??
     
  18. Lowendluver

    Lowendluver

    Jan 31, 2014
    London
    Fantastic!

    The only downside is transport! but a trolley should be fine

    PS: I even use it for rehearsal... it's realy good.

    In my experience, sound engineer of different venues may work it out differently. Some have DI the bass from the amp, others would just mic the cab. Which I would prefer, because you have the sound of your guitar right behind your ears.
     
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  19. dieseldalziel

    dieseldalziel

    Feb 14, 2015
    Cornwall, UK
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    Hi! Just so I'm not mistaken could you confirm that it is the Eden Ex112 4ohm & LM 250 Blackline you have as a rig? Thankyou!
     
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  20. Lowendluver

    Lowendluver

    Jan 31, 2014
    London
    yes, that's correct. Hope you're having as much fun as I'm with mine!
     
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  21. dieseldalziel

    dieseldalziel

    Feb 14, 2015
    Cornwall, UK
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    Bare Knuckle Pickups
    Thanks for your reply! I'm currently considering that exact set-up to allow me to get around on public transport & generally downsize..do you have any sound/video clips of your band? Cheers, Gav
     



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