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Equal Pay Split, What Are Your Thoughts?

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by bluewine, Jan 5, 2013.

  1. bluewine

    bluewine Banned

    Sep 4, 2008
    WI
    This thread is for those of you in bar bands or joining bar bands doing traditional 4 hour shows in the $400.00- $500.00 fee range.

    What is your take on pay?

    My position regardless of the circumstance is you should get an equal cut.

    Blue
     
  2. john m

    john m Supporting Member

    Jan 15, 2006
    Those who own the PA, transport more than their own gear or go out of their way to book the gig (especially if others do nothing) should get more than an equal split.

    Equal pay for equal work/investment is OK if there is gig and take.
     
  3. You mean an equal cut between the members in your band? Honestly, I think it depends on a lot of factors. If someone in the band is schlepping a huge and necessary PA around (something more than just two mains) then they probably deserve a larger cut. Some bands also give the person who booked the gig a larger cut. Personally, I don't buy into that practice.
     
  4. depends. someone hauling all the gear? fuel on long gigs? We split pretty evenly after all expenses are paid.
    Unless, we're using a fill in. They would get a flat rate less than the regular members.
     
  5. smogg

    smogg

    Mar 27, 2007
    Florida
    Equal split as long as ALL members do their fair share.
     
  6. domdec314

    domdec314 Supporting Member

    Mar 9, 2008
    Vero Beach, Florida
    In my current band, for gigs that are $500 and up we take $100 for the band fund and the rest is split evenly. The band fund is used for anything that benefits the entire band: PA equipment, band shirts, business cards, etc.
     
  7. JumboJack

    JumboJack Supporting Member

    Dec 31, 2007
    Lakewood,CA.
    +1
     
  8. bluewine

    bluewine Banned

    Sep 4, 2008
    WI
    Seems fair, but not at the $400.00 - $500.00 level.

    If we were talking gigs that pay over $1,500.00 it would be open for discussion.

    I mentioned that the thread was also for guys thinking about joining bands at that pay level. It's a good idea to ask about the split before you commit , say yes and join.

    Blue
     
  9. Stinsok

    Stinsok Supporting Member

    Dec 16, 2002
    Central Alabama
    I used to be in a band that did that. You can accomplish a lot of good with that. I quit my band recently. Used to get a lot of "you know what would be cool? If we had......" I always said "hey, that's something that we could easily do by going in together or doing a gig to pay for it, etc." Once I said that, the idea disappeared! I think what they really meant was "hey, you know what would be cool...if YOU bought...."
     
  10. bluewine

    bluewine Banned

    Sep 4, 2008
    WI
    Neither do I. Not at the 4-5 bill level. There's just not enough margin to screw around with. No offence, but it's "small time" gigging. It's the level I happen to play in.

    Blue
     
  11. Bassist4Eris

    Bassist4Eris Non Serviam Supporting Member

    Aug 11, 2012
    Scotia NY
    When I was in a cover band, the guitarist/bandleader also owned the PA. He got to the shows a few hours earlier than anyone, set up the whole monstrosity, and left a couple hours after us. We were a trio that got $400 per gig. The guitarist took $200, and the drummer and I each got $100. I had no problem with this.
     
  12. Kmonk

    Kmonk

    Oct 18, 2012
    South Shore, Massachusetts
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    Endorsing Artist: Fender, Spector, Ampeg, Curt Mangan Strings
    I Agree.
     
  13. You'd be surprised, man. I reckon if your band is pulling in $500 a gig you're probably doing better than 95% of musicians out there, or at least that's what it seems given what I've read on Talkbass.
     
  14. JumboJack

    JumboJack Supporting Member

    Dec 31, 2007
    Lakewood,CA.
    Well then I would tell you to get your own PA, we'll use it and then we can split the money evenly.
     
  15. bluewine

    bluewine Banned

    Sep 4, 2008
    WI
    Interesting, this is also something guys thinking about joining a band should think about.

    For those that read my threads, it's no secret that I don't participate in band funds.

    Blue
     
  16. Stinsok

    Stinsok Supporting Member

    Dec 16, 2002
    Central Alabama
    Most everyone has money tied up in their instruments, amps, drumkits, etc. Why should it be up to some poor guy to spend that much more for everyone else to make the same?
     
  17. Marginal Tom

    Marginal Tom

    Apr 28, 2010
    O'Fallon, IL
    Booking all of the jobs and/or owning/hauling/setting up/tearing down the PA should involve more pay. If everyone books jobs, the band as a whole owns the PA and everyone does an equal amount of work, the pay should be equal.

    That said, I own a PA and never ask for extra money. But that's because I love to play, and don't depend on music to pay my bills.
     
  18. MegaSwing

    MegaSwing Your Obedient Bassist® Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 26, 2002
    Baltimore, MD USA
    Small money. See it for what it is and don't be selfish about it. Divide it (and the work) equally, and be looking for greener pastures. A hundred dollars for a night of playing doesn't even cover the effort for the night alone, much less travel and equipment costs and rehearsal. Local gigging is about building a brand. If it's only about the money, you'll never get anywhere. The brand comes first.
     
  19. bluewine

    bluewine Banned

    Sep 4, 2008
    WI
    Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with "small time" gigging there's good money in it.

    4 bills is the top of the scale for small bar gigging in Milwaukee.

    If the bar does good and the owner is cool they will give the band a $100.00 boost.

    Blue
     
  20. taliesin

    taliesin

    Nov 12, 2007
    Toronto, ON
    In my last band I did all the booking and moved the PA - so whenever we made more than $100 each (so more than $400 since we were a 4 piece) I got an extra $50 - $100 depending on pay.

    That happened about half the time and everybody was happy with it.
     



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