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Fellas Educate Me...What is the Aguilar Sound? How would you describe it?

Discussion in 'Amps [BG]' started by BrentSimons, Aug 14, 2013.


  1. BrentSimons

    BrentSimons Supporting Member

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    Hey Guys,
    I've been using GK and Ampeg for years now, (usually GK into Ampeg) but I have been curious about Aguilar for awhile now. How would you describe the Aguilar sound? For reference I would describe my GK sound as edgy, Your thoughts?
    Thank you in advance,
    Brent
     
  2. DonBorelli

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    Very flat which means it has a lot of tasty mids. It is not edgy like the GK...it is a more fat sound. To me it sounds like a slightly creamier and less wooly Ashdown Abm 500. Gotta love these bloody metaphors, eh?;)
     
  3. DonBorelli

    DonBorelli

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    Just to clarify. I'm talking about the db750.
     
  4. IntrepidCellist

    IntrepidCellist Supporting Member

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    I would say supportive and punchy, with a bit more midrange focus and a very "smooth" treble response (not edgy) and depending on the amp, either huge bottom end for days (DB series) or massive, fast and thick midrange punch with plenty of supportive lows (Tone Hammer series).
     
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  6. wolffire99

    wolffire99 Supporting Member

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    Warm, balanced, modern
     
  7. makanudo

    makanudo

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    I was also curious about this. Fat thick mids with supportive lows sounds awesome! Do you guys match it with aguilar cabs or how do you preffer your Aggies?

    Sorry for hijacking :O
     
  8. cnltb

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    middy is what those amps tend to sound like to me.
    A good kind of middy but still middy.
     
  9. KJung

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    I call the Aguilar tone (specifically the TH500/350, and also the DB751/50) the 'anti-GK' heads. Pretty much at the opposite end of the voicing continuum, with the GK having that 'edge' and brightness and aggressive grind and upper treble sizzle capability (as described briefly by the OP), and the Aguilar being all about a warm midrange character (i.e., controlled, baked in harmonic complexity of the midrange), fat, chewy low end, and a very organic, relaxed top end that is not edgy or harsh or hi fi in any way.

    Both tone profiles have a strong reason for being, depending on the tone you are looking for. If I had an MTD and wanted that 'boom and sizzle' to really come through, I'd be all over the GK (or if I was looking for a very bright J slap tone). For those who are more attracted to George Porter Jr, Duck Dunn, Bob Glaub, etc., the Aguilar tone is quite something.

    I personally use Bergantino Neo's (CN and AE cabs) with my TH500 and TH350. Especially with the CN cabs, they have a sort of tight (i.e., nice ratio of upper bass to lower bass), punchy, warm tone that really works well. I also LOVE the Aguilar DB 12" loaded cabs, but they are too heavy for me personally.
     
  10. makanudo

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    So for someone looking for a more slap oriented sound the Aguilar is a great option and if you want a more heavy rock/lighter metal the GK are the ones?
     
  11. KJung

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    Well, you can play any style on any gear. If you like the Ready Freddie Washington or Larry Graham 'fat, meaty, slap tone, the Aguilar TH500 is amazing. If you want the Marcus Miller or Norm Stockton type of bright slap tone with lots of upper treble content, the GK does that great.

    The GK's do have more of that upper midrange grind (think Flea) while the Aguilar has more low mid growl (think Georg Porter Jr.).

    IMO!
     
  12. bass12

    bass12 Fueled by chocolate Supporting Member

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    I can't speak for the heads but the OB-3 that was in my Lull was the sound of "getting lost in the mix". Lots of low end and sparkling highs but it was sorely lacking in midrange punch. I switched to a Sadowsky preamp and the instrument came alive. The bass I used to leave at home now sees a considerable amount of gig time (considerable by today's standards at least ;)).
     
  13. KJung

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    Yeah, my least favorite on-board pre. Even though the TH heads are said to be 'based on the OB-3 circuitry', I don't hear that at all. The TH500/350 is the exact opposite of the OB-3 voicing to my ear... lots of upper bass and midrange, and a very 'lower treble' top end. Edit: The OB-1 is closer to the Sadowsky pre to my ear.
     
  14. j.kernodle

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    smooth on the top end, huge gut rattling low end. db750's are very sensitive to different preamp tubes. when I first got mine I thought it sounded muddy. swapped out for a new tube and it really changed the way whole upper kid and treble response. I think it sounds very similar to the old Demeter preamp sound.
     
  15. JohnDavisNYC

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    Aguilar sounds like New York.
     
  16. SactoBass

    SactoBass There are some who call me.......Sactobass

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    GK: Clean, limpid medium yellow with a hint of green, quite rich, a really lovely colour. Touch of new wood on the nose, ripe melony fruit, slightly exotic, stylish and very expressive. Fine, floral, honeysuckle fruit on the palate, with hazelnut overtones.

    Aguilar: Rich and quite buttery, yet good lemony acidity,very elegant but still young. Very good balance, oak and fruit well blended in, an excellent example of grape variety dominated by terroir, great persistence, very good future.
     
  17. makanudo

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    Dude let me take a hit of that sweet stuff
     
  18. JMarsh

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    Heh heh. He said terroir.
     
  19. SactoBass

    SactoBass There are some who call me.......Sactobass

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    Okay......but just be sure to have your pinky finger pointed up at the required 54 degree angle.
     
  20. kobass

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    I've heard it described as "updated/modern take on the classic Ampeg sound."
     
  21. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I agree with your assessment of the difference between the OBP-3 and the TH500 preamps. For that reason, the OBP-3 is one of my favorite on-board preamps.
     

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