Fender decals on not-really-Fender basses

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Habilis, Sep 1, 2012.


  1. Habilis

    Habilis Supporting Member

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    Should I have a problem with this? In these forums, and in the classifieds, I have been seeing a lot of either Squier (not "Squire," you dorks!) basses or "Franken-basses" where the owner has done a fair amount of upgrading of parts (pickups, necks) etc., and then slapped a Fender decal on the headstock.

    Generally, the owner has been pretty above-board about noting that the bass in question is not a "real Fender," unlike every ad for a Fender I've ever seen on Craigslist (*Invariably a "Squire"), but still, this just doesn't seem entirely kosher to me.

    First of all, why would you do something like that unless you were trying to convince people it's a Fender?

    Second, sure YOU might be up-front when you're selling it, but what's to stop the next guy you sell it to from reselling it as a "real Fender?" How much responsibility should the original decal-swapper bear for this?

    I'm not trying to get anyone in trouble here; this is more of a philosophical question I had that I thought I'd put to my TB colleagues.
  2. bongomania

    bongomania Gold Supporting Member

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    Just FYI, we've had this discussion a thousand times already, and it always gets ugly. I'm not challenging your position, only warning that this landmine-strewn field is well known to the natives. :)
  3. king_biscuit

    king_biscuit Supporting Member

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    You wouldn't. /thread
  4. smcd

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    This will get ugly fast.
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  6. cybersnyder

    cybersnyder Always groove.... Gold Supporting Member

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  7. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

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    There are plenty of people who are self-conscious about playing Squier instruments (Squire for any dorks out there), so maybe they slap a Fender decal on there to make themselves more confident around the gear snobs. Your second point is certainly valid, though.
  8. king_biscuit

    king_biscuit Supporting Member

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    Then his first point is valid too. Because the purpose is to make other people think its a Fender.
  9. Habilis

    Habilis Supporting Member

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    OK, I will close this thread if it gets what I would consider ugly.
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  11. tjh

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    just for clarification ... everybody that is a dork does not always misspell Squier ... and everybody that misspells Squire is not nescessarily a dork ... and then not everybody that changes logos on Squiers is considered a dork if they correctly spell Squier ... but because they change the logo to impress people, they do kind of look like a dork ... so I guess that maybe if you buy a Squier and tell people that you bought a Squire and then change the logo so that nobody knows you bought a Squier, including the people that you told you bought a Squire, they are probably dorks too??

    I sand logos off of basses because I like to ... and I own them, so I can ... in fact often times, I take knobs off too, I am a minimalist ... I do not put Fender logos on, in fact I bought a bass once that was Squire (I am a dork, so I guess I better start spelling the way I am supposed to) that had a Fender logo on it, and I sanded that off too ... again, because I could ... I like keeping things mysterious, so when people see no name on the bass (and probably no knobs), they have to come and ask me what kind it is ... and I can tell them "I dunno, I bought it at a pawn shop for 50 bucks" ... then they can tell me about the ***** brand they play and feel superior about it ... I like to help people feel good about themselves ... especially when everybody else tells them they are dorks ...
  12. Geroi Asfalta

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    If you're like me, and refinned a few necks, and the squier logo came off, I think it's alot easier to find a fender logo compared to a squier logo. I can't have a bare headstock.
  13. tmw

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    Too funny!

  14. SasquatchDude

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    Definitely not cool by my book. Only time I'd consider putting on a Fender decal is if I were building a "Frankenbass" entirely from genuine Fender parts, and the original logo was lost during refinishing.

    Otherwise, I'd much rather be seen playing a "cheap" Fender copy than knowingly try to pass off a knock-off as the real deal.
  15. Not yet

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    Was tradin in some gear at GC last weekend and the couple in front of me were trading in what looked like a nice sunburst strat to go for a PRS.

    Ask the salesman how it turned out and he says when they looked at it it was just a fender decal.....older couple had just bought off Craigslist for too much money and were crushed

    Kinda where it goes (manytimes) at the end of the day
  16. RaginRog

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    My goodness...that is such a tiny Rolls Royce, but I'd still pay $130k for it. :p
  17. cybersnyder

    cybersnyder Always groove.... Gold Supporting Member

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    If had a Squier and the decal bugged me, I'd just put a piece of electrical tape over it and say my endorsement deal requires me to hide the Fender logo. More mystique and much easier.
  18. PerlNinja

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    I've got a Fender decal on one of my Corts... :bag:
  19. pklima

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    I liked that "Squire by Fenda" decal somebody made. Sadly it was just a Photoshop, but I wish it was real. If you're gonna be fake, be so blatantly fake it's funny.
  20. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

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    But everyone who misspells Squier is a dork.
  21. pklima

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    Actually, forget Fender. I wish I had some decals that said "Fendi" in the Fender-style script. That would confuse everyone.

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