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Fender pbass for metal ?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by aris17561, Mar 30, 2014.

  1. aris17561

    aris17561

    Feb 25, 2014
    Hello all ,

    I am using a fender pbass just for recording stuff in my computer . The problem with my mim fender is that I cannot take a big bass sound that makes the all production sounds huge . I need a bass tone that I will not be able to hear it separately but to make the production bigger and fuller . I write two guitars hardly panned and I hear the bass in the mix as a third guitar . Is the bass the problem ? I heard that pbass are not for any heavier stuff than iron maiden . Is this true ? I don't know a lot about basses . Just need something that makes the guitars sounds heavier and not so a separate bass tone ...please help !!!
     
  2. smeet

    smeet Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 27, 2006
    Woodland Hills, CA
    It sounds like you don't like the fact that you can hear the bass in the mix. Interesting.

    P basses are easy to hear in a mix because they have lots of midrange. Scoop the mids out, boost lows and highs, and you should get what you want.
     
  3. aris17561

    aris17561

    Feb 25, 2014
    No !!! It's not that at all !!! I want to hear the baas as a sense of an extension of guitars low end . Not as a complete separate instrument . I want the bass to be the big muscle dad who keep his 2 children ( guitars ) from their hands and act as a total and not as 3 independent guys who are just walking . With the excessive midrange of p bass I feel that I write 3 guitars and my production doesn't have the low end I am seeking . But again i am not sure that the problem is the p bass ... Just asking if I need a bass with soap bars or humbucker for example ...
     
  4. I'm pretty sure the problem isn't the bass.
     
  5. Doctor J

    Doctor J

    Dec 23, 2005
    Grease
    Boost the mids of the guitars at around 1-2kHz, put a high pass filter on them at around 120Hz. Boost the low end of the bass at around 80Hz and a notch filter at around 180Hz, take some out there.
     
  6. Rich McCoy

    Rich McCoy

    Apr 8, 2013
    Metal...you gotta love it.
     
  7. NYCbassist

    NYCbassist Supporting Member

    Try a Zoom B3 and experiment with some different settings until one clicks with you.
     
  8. aris17561

    aris17561

    Feb 25, 2014
    Sob, I was considering if buying the ibanez sr700 but now you I start to forget about it . What are the differences bettwen mine and this ibanez ?
     
  9. Just leave the bass out, and play with 7 string detuned guitars. Your particular mission will be accomplished.
     
  10. aris17561

    aris17561

    Feb 25, 2014
    I am not that guy !!!
     
  11. joeyl

    joeyl Supporting Member

    Post a clip do we can hear it
     
  12. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    Start reading about frequency slotting. I think you just need more time learning how to mix. It's an art form.
     
  13. Mikio

    Mikio

    Feb 21, 2009
    Santiago de Chile
    P basses are good for anything, but I'd suggest a Jazz or a PJ for a more aggressive tone
     
  14. aris17561

    aris17561

    Feb 25, 2014
    Ok thank you so much . Just out of curiosity may you tell me what is the difference between a p bass and a bass with humbuckers or a bass with soap bars ? Is there any difference between a 4string and a 5 string with the the same tuning as far as the tone ?
     
  15. smcd

    smcd

    Jun 28, 2009
    Boston, MA
    The genre does attract a certain element, no doubt.
     
  16. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    That's way too broad to give you any useful information.
     
  17. aris17561

    aris17561

    Feb 25, 2014
    Just tell a few words and I will understand the difference . I see a lot of deferent basses but I also see that the situation with basses is totally different than guitars . For example in guitars fender is for cleans , gibson for crunch , esp for metal etc . I also see that there are lot of people play metal with a fender but realistically fender makes guitars for a style and Gibby for another .

    In basses I see that fender is ok for everything , ibanez the same , esp the same . So that why I am trying to understand why so different basses and pickups configuration ?

    Do you believe that with my bass and a good post proses sing I can have a huge low end in my mix ?
     
  18. Kmonk

    Kmonk

    Oct 18, 2012
    South Shore, Massachusetts
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing Artist: Fender, Spector, Ampeg, Curt Mangan Strings
    No offense but it is a MIM. It won't have the same tone or sound as full as an MIA. A Jazz bass will give you more tonal options.
     
  19. Mikio

    Mikio

    Feb 21, 2009
    Santiago de Chile
    The P's humbucker is very mellow and middy, while the J pickups are brighter, and since there's always one in the bridge, they give you a lot of punch and an edgy sound.

    Soapbars are like J singles on roids, it's hard to explain
     



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