Fender pbass for metal ?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by aris17561, Mar 30, 2014.


  1. aris17561

    aris17561

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    Hello all ,

    I am using a fender pbass just for recording stuff in my computer . The problem with my mim fender is that I cannot take a big bass sound that makes the all production sounds huge . I need a bass tone that I will not be able to hear it separately but to make the production bigger and fuller . I write two guitars hardly panned and I hear the bass in the mix as a third guitar . Is the bass the problem ? I heard that pbass are not for any heavier stuff than iron maiden . Is this true ? I don't know a lot about basses . Just need something that makes the guitars sounds heavier and not so a separate bass tone ...please help !!!
  2. smeet

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    It sounds like you don't like the fact that you can hear the bass in the mix. Interesting.

    P basses are easy to hear in a mix because they have lots of midrange. Scoop the mids out, boost lows and highs, and you should get what you want.
  3. aris17561

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    No !!! It's not that at all !!! I want to hear the baas as a sense of an extension of guitars low end . Not as a complete separate instrument . I want the bass to be the big muscle dad who keep his 2 children ( guitars ) from their hands and act as a total and not as 3 independent guys who are just walking . With the excessive midrange of p bass I feel that I write 3 guitars and my production doesn't have the low end I am seeking . But again i am not sure that the problem is the p bass ... Just asking if I need a bass with soap bars or humbucker for example ...
  4. MICKUSS

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    I'm pretty sure the problem isn't the bass.
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  6. azapistagyerek

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  7. Doctor J

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    Boost the mids of the guitars at around 1-2kHz, put a high pass filter on them at around 120Hz. Boost the low end of the bass at around 80Hz and a notch filter at around 180Hz, take some out there.
  8. Rich McCoy

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    Metal...you gotta love it.
  9. NYCbassist

    NYCbassist Supporting Member

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    Try a Zoom B3 and experiment with some different settings until one clicks with you.
  10. aris17561

    aris17561

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    Sob, I was considering if buying the ibanez sr700 but now you I start to forget about it . What are the differences bettwen mine and this ibanez ?
  11. richntiff

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    Just leave the bass out, and play with 7 string detuned guitars. Your particular mission will be accomplished.
  12. aris17561

    aris17561

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    I am not that guy !!!
  13. joeyl

    joeyl Supporting Member

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    Post a clip do we can hear it
  14. bassgod0dmw

    bassgod0dmw Supporting Member

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    Start reading about frequency slotting. I think you just need more time learning how to mix. It's an art form.
  15. Mikio

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    P basses are good for anything, but I'd suggest a Jazz or a PJ for a more aggressive tone
  16. aris17561

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    Ok thank you so much . Just out of curiosity may you tell me what is the difference between a p bass and a bass with humbuckers or a bass with soap bars ? Is there any difference between a 4string and a 5 string with the the same tuning as far as the tone ?
  17. smcd

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    The genre does attract a certain element, no doubt.
  18. bassgod0dmw

    bassgod0dmw Supporting Member

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    That's way too broad to give you any useful information.
  19. aris17561

    aris17561

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    Just tell a few words and I will understand the difference . I see a lot of deferent basses but I also see that the situation with basses is totally different than guitars . For example in guitars fender is for cleans , gibson for crunch , esp for metal etc . I also see that there are lot of people play metal with a fender but realistically fender makes guitars for a style and Gibby for another .

    In basses I see that fender is ok for everything , ibanez the same , esp the same . So that why I am trying to understand why so different basses and pickups configuration ?

    Do you believe that with my bass and a good post proses sing I can have a huge low end in my mix ?
  20. Kmonk

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    No offense but it is a MIM. It won't have the same tone or sound as full as an MIA. A Jazz bass will give you more tonal options.
  21. Mikio

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    The P's humbucker is very mellow and middy, while the J pickups are brighter, and since there's always one in the bridge, they give you a lot of punch and an edgy sound.

    Soapbars are like J singles on roids, it's hard to explain

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