1. Welcome to TalkBass 2014! If you're new here, we just went through a major site upgrade. Please post all concerns and bugs to the Forum Usage Issues forum. We will be monitoring that forum. Thank you for all of your feedback.

    The TB Android app is working, you may need to uninstall/reinstall. The iPhone app is now updated and should work after you upgrade. TalkBass is responsive to any screen size, so we recommend using your mobile browser for full functionality.

    Please read the TalkBass 2014 FAQ for lots of great info on the new software.

Fretless Metal

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by 456Spectwick, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. 456Spectwick

    456Spectwick

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2014
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have yet to see anyone mention this band or style of music. Sooooooo Opinions?



    :bassist:
  2. Hamlet7768

    Hamlet7768 Here to chew gum and rock. Still have gum. Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2011
    Likes Received:
    1
    Not a huge fan of technical death metal (actually, not a fan at all), but right up until the growler started growling I was sold. Don't think I've ever seen techdeath involving tapping on a fretless bass. Rather impressive, and a good sound.
  3. bassmeknik

    bassmeknik

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2009
    Likes Received:
    0
    really?

    Sort of cool seeing a fretless used this way... The singing (if it can be called that) turns me off. Good playing though.
  4. 456Spectwick

    456Spectwick

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2014
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yeah I'm not really a fan of the looooong drawn out shred fest or the monotone death vocals but I found the playing interesting enough to hear the whole song.
  5. The Hobo of Oz

    The Hobo of Oz

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2013
    Likes Received:
    0
    I really don't like the growling, but the bass parts are really cool! Fade by Aghora is also a song with some fretless bass, I preffer that one because noone growls in it, haha! :)
  6. BassOrdinaire

    BassOrdinaire

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2007
    Likes Received:
    0
    I've heard:

    Sean Malone
    Jeroen Thesseling
    Joe Lester
    Robin Zielhorst
    Steve DiGiorgio
    Forest LaPointe
    The guys in Opeth (sometimes)
    The dude in Porcupine Tree (sometimes)
    Lars Norberg

    Anybody know of any other predominantly fretless players in metal? Particularly interested in black and doom metal.
  7. MethodsofDance

    MethodsofDance

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Likes Received:
    0
    Of course, you can't have a thread on this subject without posting *the* defining moment of fretless bass in metal :



    I'm also a big fan of Sean Malone's playing on Cynic's "Focus"
  8. Clef_de_fa

    Clef_de_fa

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2011
    Likes Received:
    9
    Yeah Beyond Creation is something and a band from my City.

    This is the bass player :
  9. edpal

    edpal Tick-tock, she's not just another pretty face! Gold Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2007
    Likes Received:
    18
    I thought the fretless tones were cool within that genre but generally felt the tapping and much of the bass player's other hand movements were strictly for show and the camera. Within that type of a heavy overall sonic wave tapping on a fretless with the inherently faster note decay seems a little pointless. To me. Tapping solos are kind of cool. I like tapping where I get to pull off something that would otherwise require 3 arms.
  10. Kragnorak

    Kragnorak

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Likes Received:
    2
    I love playing fretless in metal. I just posted a track from the late 90s where I used my 6-string Aria Pro II Avante. I'm debating whether to resurrect this bass currently. The pickups and pre-amp in it are inferior so I stopped using it.

    This is nothing like Forest LaPointe, but the solo section is really fun!
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 16, 2014
  11. brendanbassist

    brendanbassist Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2010
    Likes Received:
    0
    Surprised that Linus Klausenitzer from Obscura hasn't been mentioned.
  12. Huge

    Huge Hell is full of musical amateurs. Like me. Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2005
    Likes Received:
    0
    That was good. Would listen again.
  13. eyvindwa

    eyvindwa

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2007
    Likes Received:
    0
    Great player, but the music is a little too 'polished' or 'pretty' for my tastes when it comes to death metal. To me, the ultimate fretless death metal bass playing has to be this:
  14. beebassdude

    beebassdude Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2008
    Likes Received:
    16
    Death had the big time fretless player. i personally think it sounds awful and silly and detracts from the music, but the guy can play. had he played that stuff on a fretted it would have been awesome, instead all his lines are honked all over the place with goofy slides haha.
  15. jon36992002

    jon36992002

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2012
    Likes Received:
    0
    Flavius Misarăș from Dor De Duh is pretty frequent fretless player

  16. jon36992002

    jon36992002

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2012
    Likes Received:
    0
    Also, Forest is awesome and has been a major inspiration in my fretless playing. His tone in that video is straight Jaco IMO.
  17. Thomas Kievit

    Thomas Kievit Thou shall not F*** up the groove Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Likes Received:
    1
    I've seen that video a couple of times, nice stuff they've got.

    I think they are (heavily) influenced by Obscura. Their ex-bassist, Jeroen Paul Thesseling, is a pioneer of the fretless metal bass players.
  18. Kragnorak

    Kragnorak

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Likes Received:
    2
    I couldn't disagree more! I love Steve's playing, and I think Individual Thought Patterns sounds superior to Human in large part because the bass is mixed higher...
  19. Clef_de_fa

    Clef_de_fa

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2011
    Likes Received:
    9
    Funny I'm your opposite. Fretted bass has a tendency to disapear because they put to much overdirve/distortion and copy the guitar line. At least this guy can be heard and quite well and he also do some arrangement which add a lot to the music instead of two lines or just a wall where eveyrone play the same thing like Cannibalcorpse
  20. BassOrdinaire

    BassOrdinaire

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2007
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thank you for this! I love Negura Bunget and totally forgot that this project existed.

Share This Page