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Fretless noob needs advice on strings!

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by WayneP, Dec 8, 2013.


  1. WayneP

    WayneP

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    I recently acquired a used Schecter 4-string fretless to “get my feet wet,” as it were. It needs new strings, so I looking for some advice from you experienced fretless guys on what to get.

    Primarily, I’m interested in maximizing that fretless “mwah” sound (fortunately, this bass is surprisingly good in that respect, especially for its price). I think I’ve already figured out that that comes more readily with light-gauge strings vs. medium- or heavy-guage, right? Beyond that I’m wondering, do round-wound or flats get better “mwah?”

    I don’t know what the strings are that it came to me with, but my guitar tech measured them as a rather peculiar 42, 56, 83, and 95.

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    Wayne A. Pflughaupt


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  2. carl h.

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    Pick up a used set of Jazz Flats from the classified section here for around $50.
     
  3. gjbassist

    gjbassist Supporting Member

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    D'Addario Chromes or Fender flats are great strings IMO and are way less than $50!
     
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  6. Jon Moody

    Jon Moody Supporting Member

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    Wayne, given that you want to maximize the "mwah" sound, I would recommend a round wounds over flats. Personally, I prefer Pressurewounds, because they have plenty of "mwah" but are a bit smoother on your hands, and have less finger noise than a set of rounds will.

    Other than that, play whatever gauge you are most comfortable with.
     
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    My preference is for Fender 9050 ML or CL.
     
  8. phangtonpower

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    I prefer flats over rounds, but rounds will give more mwah. Low action, favoring the bridge pickup more, and playing by the neck help too.
     
  9. MethodsofDance

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    I really like Chromes. First flats I've used but they are really good.
     
  10. WayneP

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  11. WayneP

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    The D’Addario’s look interesting, but all the scales they offer – short, long, medium, super long, etc. – are confusing. Schecter’s web site says the 4-string fretless is 34” scale – what’s that, medium?

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  12. Jay2U

    Jay2U Not as bad as he lóòks Supporting Member

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    I'm addicted to Ernie Ball flats, which I use on both basses I own. They come as singles, so you're free to compose a set of gauges to your liking. Soundwise they are identical to Chromes.
     
  13. fjadams

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    You might want to look at GHS Brite Flats. Still get the bottom, but more top end than most other flats.

    The La Bella white tape wounds also give bottom with more top than other tapes or flats. I use them on a Danelectro Longhorn, and on a Gretsch 2224 strung BEAD.
     
  14. mmbongo

    mmbongo Chicken Pot Pie. My three favorite things!! Supporting Member

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    Flats would be the worst choice here. They give the opposite sound of what the OP wants.

    Medium scale D'Addario's should fit just fine.
     
  15. Crackle

    Crackle Supporting Member

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    I highly recommend Fender nylon tape wound strings on 4-string fretless. If the fingerboard is a hard material such as Pao Ferro or ebony, then I like DR roundwounds.
     
  16. BioWeapon

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    OP is looking for mwah, as Bongo pointed out. Tape wounds probably won't generate much mwah as they will a mellow smooth sound.
     
  17. Kael

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    Rounds are what you want for mwah. Yes you can set up flats to get some mwah, but that is not there natural sound. Get a set of rounds. I can't understand the flats recommendation. Not sure if those posters read the original posters tonal goals or not.Heavy or light gauge is up to you. Lighter gauges are easier to set up for mwah, but you can lower higher gauges some and still get pretty damned respectable mwah there.

    PS: Ignore the rounds eat fingerboard crap. Yes they will eventually wear you fingerboard and you'll have to get it dressed. No different than needing to get the frets touched up once every umpteen years or so.
     
  18. Crackle

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    I was actually surprised at how much Mwah the Fender nylon tape wounds have -- a lot. Of course one important variable is having the neck as straight as possible.
     
  19. billgwx

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    +1 for that. I once had a fretless that at first had not been set up properly, and so would not mwah at all until I got both the neck relief and action just right so it would mwah up and down the neck on all strings. Nickel-plated rounds were my string of choice for that bass--wanted a warmer sound and easier sliding than with stainless steel rounds. And 34" qualifies as long scale, but if the strings go through the body on your bass you'll want super long scale strings.
     
  20. Arvin

    Arvin Underwound Supporting Member

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    +1, pressure wounds are fantastic on a fretless.
     
  21. davidhilton

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    A lot of ppl here posting for u to use flats- who knows of any fretless players that even use flats? Jaco- round, Gary Willis - round, Alain Caron- round, Michael Manring- round, Jimmy Haslip- round etc...FYI, the "mawh" sound is not going to come from ur strings alone, but rounds will definitely help u get there.
    you can hear a lot of my fretless work on my website:
    www.basslessonslosangeles.com
    -d
     

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