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"Full Size" Fender Precision??

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by 513rocks.com, Dec 29, 2013.

  1. 513rocks.com

    513rocks.com

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    I often hear the term full size precision or jazz. What years are Fender P-Basses full-size and what other size is there? Are the new American Standards Full Size?? I've always been confused about this.
    Thanx,
    Mark
  2. bigmoosepi

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    maybe they're referring to scale length.
  3. 513rocks.com

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    No it's body size. I know the different body sizes in jazz basses but not p-
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  4. 513rocks.com

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    Doin a little research the bigger body is called vintage and the smaller body is called standard. I've played both and can't tell a difference.
  5. Martin89

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    Some don't have contour lines which I think some people refer to as a slab, like the '51 models?
  6. elBandito

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    Older deluxes had dinky sized bodies.
  7. Neener

    Neener Grumpy Old Dog Supporting Member

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    I'm really no help here as I don't know about the Precisions either. (I know, so why are you posting....:rolleyes: )

    My '07 American Deluxe Jazz V has the "dinky" body. It's about 7/8 scale.

    You can't really notice any difference unless it's parked next to a "fat" body. :smug:
  8. wild4oldcars

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    theres also the mij precision lytes, which had a very slimmed down p body, if that helps.
  9. WJGreer

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    This post is mostly me subscribing to the thread, because I've wondered about this too. I swear, although I can't find the source, that the current American Deluxe Fender P and J bodies are slightly downsized compared to the vintage designs.

    FWIW, Sadowsky clarifies that their bodies are slightly downsized unless you order an "ultra-vintage" model.

    My Skjold Lions' Pride is built pretty precisely to the body size specs of a 60s J. On the other hand, my 2007 Valenti used a dinky J body. You can clearly see the difference in this picture. I realize neither of these are Fenders, but maybe it makes a good reference point.

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  10. lpdeluxe

    lpdeluxe Still rockin' Supporting Member

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    The '80s Fenders (some models) were downsized for a more "metal" look. I think everything else is the same. I know my '51 P RI fits in the same case as the other (split-coil) Ps I have owned...as did the G&L L2000, for what that's worth.
  11. tjh

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    Mark, I am surprised to hear that you are 'often' hearing this term (if you are referring to Fenders) ... I have played a few other brands in my 50+ years around these things, but 90% of the several dozen basses I have owned have been some version of passive Fender ... and other than the times I talked with folks about the 'Longhorn' era, or the P Jr, the Mustangs (etc) and perhaps some of the slightly 'thinner' bodies, shorter scale necks, etc ... I dont think I have ever used the term 'full-sized body' for P and J Fenders ... you may have differences in radius's, body cuts, etc., ... but your post is news to me ...

    Regarding your inquiry to the "New' AmStands, bodies are same shape/size as they have been since the early AmStands, and all through the AmSeries ..
  12. Bongolation

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    I'm guessing this reference has to do with slab thickness.
  13. bigsnaketex

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    there is definitely a difference in thickness and round-over. . . as well as contour.

    this is the first I've heard about "body size" as well. F R E A K Y!!
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    I've heard the American Special series bodies are slightly thinner than the AmStd's. It would be interesting to see what, if any variation occurs between older vintage models and current standard and reissue ones.
  15. JustForSport

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    So, do the 'Specials" have noticeably better tone than the rest?
  16. 513rocks.com

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    Maybe people were talking about jazz basses when I've read this.
  17. tjh

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    same thing applies to J bodies as what I said about P's ....

    ... are you sure you not thinking/talking about pickup routing sizes in the bodies?? ... thats the only thing that makes sense in any of this
  18. landau roof

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    The US Deluxe Jazz had the undersized body from the mid-'90s to like 2010 or something.

    The Standard body is fullsize, same size as vintage Fender bodies.
  19. bigsnaketex

    bigsnaketex Supporting Member

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    This whole thing was bothering me so much yesterday that I went to two of my local music stores and took down all the Fender basses and held them up to each other. . . and at least all the new and used ones I looked at (which covered a lot of different models of Jazz and Precision) were the same size.

    There were some relief routes different and some round-overs on the bodies but the dimensions were pretty much the same.

    At least now I feel better!!
  20. 513rocks.com

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    I have two sadowsky jazz basses and they're different sizes, one is a uv70. I had a 70s reissue jazz and a American standard and the 70s reissue had a bigger body so I know jazz bass have two different size bodies. On sadowskys website it says their hybrid bass is full size. I figured that meant pbasses have two sizes.

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