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Geezer Butler - Hartke 412?

Discussion in 'Amps [BG]' started by callofcthulhu, Dec 2, 2013.


  1. callofcthulhu

    callofcthulhu

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    I came across this while researching cab options for a biamp setup.

    http://noisecreep.com/black-sabbath-geezer-butler-monster-bass-rig/

    The article and the tech both clearly state that Geezer's using 412s and 215s. Not surprising since Geezer's always used 412s to the point of having a signature one designed for him when he started repping Ampeg. However, I can't find any information on Hartke ever doing 412s, and on their artist page (http://www.samsontech.com/artists/geezer-butler/) they list him as using a 410.

    So was the tech mistaken, or did Hartke make a few 412s just for Geezer? Has anyone heard any rumors about them becoming production models?

    I suppose the same questions could be asked about the 215, but personally I'd kill for an aluminum cone 412...
     
  2. JimmyM

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    Pretty sure Geezer uses paper cones.
     
  3. Vince Klortho

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    Apparently they are making both of those cabinets just for him because they do not have any 4x12 and 2x15 cabinets listed on their website. They have made both of those types of cabinets in the past but they don't now. For sale to the public, that is.
     
  4. callofcthulhu

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    I know. A man can dream though... If they WERE going to produce a 412 paper I would assume they'd follow suit in aluminum since that seems to be the way they structure their product lines.
    They have? Do you have any model name/numbers I can look for?
     
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  6. Vince Klortho

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    Here are some examples :

    VX215
    215XL
    GH412A

    I think the 4x12 cabinet is primarily for guitar. I'm not certain though.
     
  7. AdamR

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    Those are all older cabs and that 412 is for guitar. I do believe he's using paper speakers not the hybrids.
     
  8. BillyB_from_LZ

    BillyB_from_LZ Supporting Member

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    There's a nice interview with Geezer and his Tech Terry Welty here!
     
  9. callofcthulhu

    callofcthulhu

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    Same video I linked to in the OP.

    And yes, the GH412 is a guitar cab, hence the "G" I believe.

    Any Hartke insiders out there willing to weigh in on the likelihood of a Geezer sig cab ala his 412HE?
     
  10. George Mann

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    What I dream about is a HyDrive 212 in a lightweight Fearless design cabinet!:bassist:
     
  11. Tomkat8

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    If you see the grill up close, all the perforations in the metal are little black sabbath logos. Talk about custom. Lol must be nice
     
  12. BillyB_from_LZ

    BillyB_from_LZ Supporting Member

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    My bad, I didn't click on your link.

    You can become an insider by giving Larry a call and ask him yourself. Jimmy M posted Larry's new cell phone number in the Hartke club thread.
     
  13. BillyB_from_LZ

    BillyB_from_LZ Supporting Member

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    Using the existing 12s in the Hydrive 1x12 cabinet, you could have a cabinet with your choice of a 2, 4, 8 or 16 ohm impedance settings.
     
  14. George Mann

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    4-Ohms would suffice. Just need to design and build a cabinet.;)
     
  15. PJRL

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    I've always liked Geezers sound and playing, gee...he's using s 4 string to, very cool. They all sound great on 13.
     
  16. callofcthulhu

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    Hartke doesn't sell replacement speakers though.

    Buying 4 cabs to cannibalize into 1 new one just seems wasteful.
     

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