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Genz Benz guys, anyone have trouble fitting a 1/4 plug into speaker jack?

Discussion in 'Amps [BG]' started by Edword, Dec 19, 2012.


  1. Edword

    Edword

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    Today I was troubleshooting a weird scratching noise in an old rig, and needed to test the cab with a properly-working amp. The closest amp at hand was my Shuttlemax 12.0. I always use Neutrik cables with my G-B rig, but in this case the cab I was testing had only a 1/4" jack, and when I tried to plug the speaker cable into the center hole of the SM12, it wouldn't go. I didn't try to force it in, but I thought Neutrik jacks could accept 1/4" plugs if necessary. Is this not the case?

    TIA
     
  2. RedMoses

    RedMoses Supporting Member

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    Ihad the same issue with a Monster cable woth my GBE750, not wanting to break sh*t i got a speakon cable we had lying around in the studio. Nice to have both options though.
     
  3. jlepre

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    I'm pretty sure you can't force that 1/4" jack into that jack on the Shuttlemax 12. You need to have an adapter
     
  4. CL400Peavey

    CL400Peavey Supporting Member

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    Some of those Neutrik jacks will work with both 1/2" and Speakon, some wont.

    If the jack is green it works with both, black is speakon only.
     
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  6. KJung

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    The speaker outputs on the Max heads are Neutrik only.

    The dual mode Neutrik jacks are dark green.
     
  7. Edword

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  8. pbass6811

    pbass6811 Supporting Member

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    Not all Speakon plugs will accept 1/4" cables. The Genz Benz Speakon plugs will NOT accept anything but Speakon cables. you'd hafta get a Neutrik to 1/4" cable to make that work. It sucks. I had the same issue when the cab I was gigging with took a crap right before a show started. The club had extra PA cabs they said I could use, but they had 1/4" plugs and my GB SM12 has Neutrik only plugs...that night really sucked.
     
  9. jlepre

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    That's why I carry an adapter in my gig bag.
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  10. rapidfirerob

    rapidfirerob Fusion rules! Supporting Member

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    Exactly. I have two of them and extra cables as well.
     
  11. pbass6811

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    That's a great idea, although this would probably work a bit better...

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  12. jlepre

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    Just for curiosity sake how would this work better?
     
  13. pbass6811

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    Well, the output on the SM12 amp is Neutrik and the input on the speaker cab is 1/4" which is what that cable is. The adapter is fine, which I said, but using the adapter necessitates an extra 1/4" cable, which may or may not be available at that moment. Why carry the adapter AND an extra cable, when all you'd need is an extra cable?
     
  14. wcriley

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    Ya' know...
    Maybe I should put together a short Speakon to 1/4" cable in case I ever run into a situation like pbass6811 ran into. The only 1/4" cables I carry with my bass or PA gear are instrument or ballanced patch cables.
     
  15. pbass6811

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    I learned my lesson! I carry a Speakon to 1/4" cable in my gig bag. I know if it ever happens again(I have spare cabs now, too! LOL!), I have a good speaker cable to the rescue. It sucks having to carry extra stuff in my bag, but it sucks worse not having a cab to play through at a gig...;)
     
  16. wcriley

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    I'm thinking about making something small like jlepre posted, but with a male 1/4" plug instead of the female jack. Won't take up much space in the bottom of my "you never know what you might run into" box.
     
  17. jlepre

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    Just make sure it's not TOO short. That's why I think my idea works a little better.
     
  18. pbass6811

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    True. The idea of a small adapter is a great one. I have a question for you...how short are you talking? If you're going Neutrik to 1/4" male for a bass rig, I'd guess you'd need at least a 2.5'-3' cable, just to have a little slack?
     
  19. pbass6811

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    The Neutrik to 1/4" female adapter works fantastically, if you plan on also carrying 1/4'' speaker cables or the venue has 1/4" speaker cables they will let you use. One Neutrik to 1/4" male speaker cable that's long enough is all you need to carry. I like your adapter. I definitely think it would come in handy and I wish I'd had one that night my cab died, anything would've been better than nothing.
     
  20. jlepre

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    I didn't make mine. I just bought it off the rack
     
  21. wcriley

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    I'll only make it 6 or 8 inches long. I have Speakon to Speakon couplers in the "you never know" box.
     

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