Got a guy who already plays guitar, fiddle, 5-string Banjo, and mandolin - so he asks me to teach him to play a bass. He is an accomplished Bluegrass artist, has a few CDs out and gets some airplay on the local radio stations. Now he wants to play some bass too. OK -- one thing, he adds: "I don't want to learn to read music, not learn the names of the notes and just want to go 'boom-boom' on the bass". I've tried to show him some basic forms of the common boxes in the first five frets, and he just doesn't get it. He wants to know when he can 'just play the bass and not have to worry about knowing anything complicated or technical'. I keep on telling him it won't work without some patterns at least. I told him if he was learning to dance, I'd cut out footprints and place them on the floor for him to step on to learn the moves - but he doesn't seem to get it and his eyes get all glazed over and kinda squinty. I do believe he thinks I'm trying to mystify bass playing to keep him outta the secret fraternity somehow. Drawings, sketches, chalk-talks and playing with him watching me play at the same time don't seem to work when there isn't an ounce of natural talent - which he seems to think isn't all that necessary to play a bass. He cannot hear the changes so he wanders into the wrong notes or key constantly - usually by flatting or just going a few steps sharp when he cannot find the octave. hits the wrong notes and gets frustrated that he cannot resolve a 7th or minor. Personally --- I like the guy a lot and I get free haircuts from him all the time, but I'm getting upset when he pays me for a lesson that went nowhere, he learned nothing and he's all squinty-eyed in the end of that time period. Just venting.