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Help to choose a MM style pickup

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by nopalfunk, Jan 28, 2014.

  1. nopalfunk

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    Hi there

    Help needed here, I would like choose some good "Music Man style pickups" for my new bass project (I drilled a "MM pickup" shape on it), I'm looking a fat low end and crispy mids, I've been trying to get closer to a Wal pickup sound and a clone pickup is not an option, I want to buy these from a established and profesional retailer (yes yes, I know! anything could sound like a wal, and they are unique, and they have a tons of coils, 2 per string I think), Now, if I'm not wrong, a good wide open MM pickups and a good pream (an ACG EQ01 preamp filter based, and the correct location of the pickups in the body plus a nice selected woods) can help. I'll run this bass into a Mesa Boogie diesel cab/GK 700RB amp/Demeter vtbp 201-s (vintage)

    This are the pickups I've been looking.

    EMG MMTV $129.99
    http://www.emgpickups.com/bass/mm-models/active/mmtw.html
    KENT ARMSTRONG MM4 -HBMN1 $67.95
    http://www.wdmusic.com/HBMN1.html
    GFS MM Pro Plus- Alnico Music Man style $74.95
    http://www.guitarfetish.com/GFS-MM-Pro-Plus-Alnico-Music-Man-style-pickup-INCREDIBLE-tone_p_323.html
    Delano MC 4 HE/M2 $164
    http://www.delano.de/products.html?&cHash=2be52a6252&tx_smtdelano_pi1[cat]=1&tx_smtdelano_pi1[series]=7&tx_smtdelano_pi1[strings]=5&tx_smtdelano_pi1[system]=53
    Nordstrand mm4.4 $125
    http://www.nordstrandpickups.com/bass-pickups/index.shtml
    Aguilar AG 4m $109.00
    http://www.aguilaramp.com/products_pickups_AG4M.htm
    Bartolini MM42CBJD3 $124
    http://www.thebassplace.com/parts-pickups-c-8_3/bartolini-mm42cbjd3-4-string-musicman-pickup-p-167
    Seymour Duncan SMB 4d $84.95
    http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/bass/music-man/4string/smb4d_5d_cerami/
    Lace Sensor® Man O' War MM4 $109.99
    http://www.lacemusic.com/ManOWarMM.php

    special appereance:
    Ken Smith 4 - String Model, Not a MM style
    http://www.kensmithbasses.com/accessories/Parts/pickups.htm

    Which model do you recommend me?

    Thanks

    Mike
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  2. nopalfunk

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  4. bassgod0dmw

    bassgod0dmw Supporting Member

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    +1 on all points above. I'll add that a ceramic pickup will probably get you closer than an alnico.

    MM pickups really sound nothing like a Wal. The G&L MFD's linked above are really your best option IMO.
  5. nopalfunk

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    Thanks, actually this weekend I'll pick an G&L bass who someone sell me, and as I said, the MM's shape it's already drilled in the body, so I'm thinking in some options.....

    1.-Buy a nordstrand set and install them with the ACG preamp in my new bass (maybe not a wal sound at all, but will be a kick ass sound, are you agree?
    2.-Install the ACG's preamp into the G&L (like an update) but I'll need a new preamp for my project...
    3.-Buy those MDF pickups and drill out or put a plastic cover depending of the size of these pickups...It's a shame because last week I ordered a bridge from G&L for this project, and actually remember that I had considered those pickups
  6. nopalfunk

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    Someone here knows somebody who can make a wal's clone pickups, no SGD, another one, I requested to David a pair of those pickups but he's running very late on his orders?

    Changing topic, If we forgot that Wal sound, which of those MM pickups did you think have the most aggressive midrange growl?
  7. BassLife77

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    You can email Jerry Sentell http://www.sentellpickups.net/bass.html. He said he can make me a Wal type pickup. I'm gonna try one later in the year. It seems like he prefers to build to order. I tried to convince him if he made a bunch of these they would sell quick because of the demand.
  8. nopalfunk

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    Thanks, i'll try with him…

    Any advice regarding the MM style pickups? i've had bad experience with the non established retailers…i would like to avoid any chance to fraud or a crazy delivery time like 6 months or whatever….:crying:
  9. mmbongo

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  10. nopalfunk

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    thanks, i only need more advices to decide which brand would fit better to the sound i'm searching...
  11. MPU

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    Unless the pickup is multicoil pickup like Wal it will not sound like Wal. If the ohms on Sentell page are correct he winds his multicoil a lot hotter than Wal. Wals have around 2kOhm per coil. I've made mine with Wal size coils and they sure sound pretty Walish. Pity you've had negative experiences with small scale retailers.
  12. mmbongo

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    Add Seymour Duncan, Carvin, and Lace to your list of MM pickups to check out.
  13. sotua

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    I built a bass for installing SGD Wal clones. For the reasons known to everyone in this forum, I decided to give that a pass and fill those MM routs with something cheap.

    Enter GFS Ceramic MM:
    http://www.guitarfetish.com/GFS-MM-Pro-Music-Man-size-pickup-MAXIMUM-string-response_p_322.html

    Bought them over the Alnico version for the extra zing. Stupid cheap, and great sound. Samples here, both passive and active through a BassMods 3Band.

    passive:
    https://soundcloud.com/fngasser/datbass-finger
    https://soundcloud.com/fngasser/datbass-slap
    https://soundcloud.com/fngasser/datbass-pick

    with preamp:
    https://soundcloud.com/fngasser/test-bassmods-preamp2

    (btw, the GFS pickups you get with the direct price, not the list price)
  14. GMC

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    I've used the Kent MM Pickups a number of times and I really like them. If you want burbly mids...can I suggest choosing tone woods which provide that, not just the pick up? Mahogany bodies and maple necks with a rosewood board tend to point that particular way sonically.
  15. nopalfunk

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    thanks for the info, plans to sell those clones? PM'd
  16. tylerwylie

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    I bet the Nordstrand or Seymour Duncan wired in Series will do really well.
  17. nopalfunk

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    Sound pretty cool! Thanks, and a really good price....I'll seriously consider to buy a set
  18. nopalfunk

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    Ready, I added the Seymour and the Lace!!!
    What do you think?
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    The more voted until now: Nordstrand
  20. mmbongo

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    Here's my advice. SGD Neo MM. Hear me out. SGD Neo pickups are designed from the ground up inspired by Wal pickups. Too bad I just sold the one I had, you'd be in heaven right now :)

    If you ask me, most of the pickups on your list have a similar sound with slight variations. I don't know about the Lace though. I also did not know Aguilar had an MM pickup so I have not used it either. But the SGD will definitely have more of that Wal sound due to the Neo magets.

    Now I know all that's going on with SGD. What I would do is contact Best Bass Gear who is now the exclusive distributor form them. They have some SGD's in stock, but I don't know about the MM sizes. Ask them when they will have some, as they will not sell it unless they have it in hand ready to ship.

    If you decide on the Aguilar, check www.bassstringsonline.com or Best Bass Gear for the best price. However from the spec sheet it sounds like the Aguilar is hard wired to parallel so I'd skip it if that's the case. You want the big fat midrange of series wiring.

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