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Hero, anti-hero or non-hero?

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by slobake, Jan 3, 2014.


  1. slobake

    slobake Supporting Member

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    I like stories with a non-hero. Stories where the main strength of the main character is considered a weakness by many. Frodo in the Lord of The Rings is a classic example. Some others that come to mind are "The Sword of Shannara" and even "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"
    What a about you, what kind of main character do you like? I know sometimes it is not so black and white but you have to start somewhere.
     
  2. two fingers

    two fingers You tahkin 'uh me? Yeah, you. You tahkin 'uh me? Supporting Member

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    I like stories where the human side of being super human is covered at great length. Spider Man is probably the most famous example I can think of. Sometimes being a super hero forces one to make really tough personal choices.
     
  3. Duuuuuuuuuude

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  4. LiquidMidnight

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    I can respect a good anti-hero. But while I know in real life that very few people can be black-and-white good or bad, I still really like a truly good protagonist. But I prefer chaotic good characters over lawful or neutral good characters.

    A while back, I started watching an anime called Gun X Sword. Many people compared the protagonist to Vash from Trigun just because of some strange character quirks. Immediately, I didn't find the protagonist to be much anything like Vash. He seemed like a rather selfish individual who only helped people when it ultimately benefited him. Vash, on the other hand, is a completely selfless hero, willing to even help people who are trying to kill or capture him. Maybe the protagonist in Gun X Sword grows as a person over the series arc, but his character left me flat. Since the anime was really derivative to begin with, I never finished it. However, on the topic of anime, I love Sebastian from Black Butler, even though at the end of the day, he's a demon from hell who eats souls. But he was written as such a likable character.

    I do like what TvTropes calls "Dark is Not Evil" protaganists, Batman being the prototypical example.

    P.S. I do realize the irony of this post and the fact that my avatar is LeLouch/Zero from Code: Geass, who is a protagonist who does some very questionable things over the course of the series.
     
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  6. bassinplace

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    I've always been a fan of the underdog. Harvey Pikar and Charles Bukowski come to mind. Or just about any jazz musician from the 20th century, lol.
     
  7. LiquidMidnight

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    Have you ever seen the Harvey Pekar movie? If not, I highly recommend it.
     
  8. Bassist4Eris

    Bassist4Eris Non Serviam Supporting Member

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    I love antiheroes. Han Solo. Travis Bickle (Taxi Driver). Heck, even Sid Vicious.
     
  9. Hamlet7768

    Hamlet7768 Here to chew gum and rock. Still have gum.

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    What you call the "non-hero" is actually the original form of the anti-hero. Originally, as the classical hero was an idealized character who exemplified his (naturally, always male during that time) civilization, the classical anti-hero was a character who....didn't.

    That said, I like anti-heroes like Philip Marlowe, albeit on the slightly more law-abiding side.
     
  10. Bassist4Eris

    Bassist4Eris Non Serviam Supporting Member

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    Have you seen Defendor? It stars Woody Harrelson as a developmentally disabled man who is obsessed with comic books and thinks he's a superhero. Harrelson's portrayal is completely compassionate and respectful; this is not some cheap comedy. It's a fun and funny story, but one that is ultimately a heartwarming meditation about what real heroism is, and the many ways it is exhibited by not just Harrelson's character, but those around him too. It's a very beautiful, very human film that never got the audience it deserved. A smart action-comedy with a lot of heart. I think you'd like it a lot.
     
  11. Monster Truck

    Monster Truck groove student Supporting Member

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  12. Jazz Ad

    Jazz Ad Mi la ré sol Gold Supporting Member

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    Plain heroes are boring unless their weaknesses are explored. Spider-man indeed.
    I used to like anti-heroes and their rebel side but it's a model that's been used and abused.
    I much prefer normal people who are forced to reveal themselves under the circumstances.
     
  13. BurningSkies

    BurningSkies CRAZY BALDHEAD Supporting Member

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    Either way. I don't care, as long as I can find interest in the people. The perfect example in the same genre would be Donaldson's Thomas Covenant anti hero...he is a leper with inner rage issues, he's selfish, he's a rapist...and the protagonist of the series.
     
  14. Bloodhammer

    Bloodhammer Twinkle Twinkle Black Star

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    I like hard ass antiheros like hardboiled detectives, The Man With No Name, or Mad Max.
     
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    I'm big into anti-heroes. I like loners specifically. Unsurprisingly, i'm big into westerns. Any era but i have a bit of a predilection for the revisionists.
     
  17. Milk

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    Yeah like those.

    I also watched loads of noir
     
  18. foal30

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    Jimmy McNulty
     
  19. ZenG

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    Vin Diesel sucks.......... (at least in "Man Apart")

    I liked Eastwood in "Dirty Harry"
     
  20. jugglingfreak

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    Snake Pliskin from "Escape from New York"

    Complete anti-hero.
     
  21. fhm555

    fhm555 So FOS my eyes are brown Supporting Member

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