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How far is too far with extended range guitars?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by hillbobby, Jan 31, 2014.

  1. hillbobby

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    I just saw where shecter announced a 9 string guitar with all the extra strings being lower. I think this just confirms that guitar players really want to be bass players. :D
  2. BioWeapon

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    Well hey, Glass Cloud's guitarist has a Legator 9 string with a bass E string on it. The bass is standard, I think.
    I think I might have to agree with you ;)
  3. InsaneBassninja

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  4. 456Spectwick

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    9 string is about where i draw the line. That glasscloud album didnt even really use it. That same guitarist was in a band named The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza, their last album actually used it more frequently.

    is the low string on an 8 string guitar also a bass string?
  5. spade2you

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    I haven't heard any low F# (or lower tuned) guitars that sounded pleasing to my ears. I like a good 7, but I think the guitars really benefit from fanned frets, especially if tuned below B. Getting drop tunings to sound great would probably require a heck of an uncomfortable fan.
  6. Selta

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    Depends on the player and their playing situation. Just like ERBs - if done tastefully and in a good context then it'll likely be cool. If they just have it just because it's more range and they can "chug chug chugity" in bass range, well then IMO that's somewhat lame.
    I have an inkling it's more of the latter - cos you know, it's "heavier".
  7. pklima

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    It's too much when the extra range gets too hard to reach or doesn't sound good enough to be useful. Grand pianos have a lot of range, and they're OK.
  8. Nev375

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    If your amp cant reproduce the note you've gone too far.
  9. letsrumble

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    Ibanez has one ready to go, as well:


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  10. Bill Whitehurst

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    If you can't wrap your head or hands around it, it's too far.
  11. Pilgrim

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    I guess I can see 8 strings as a way to double the notes on a 4-string. Four strings have worked nicely for a few hundred years. I can see 5 strings if someone needs a lower note or two. Aside from that, I don't see the need.
  12. jamminology101

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    Really its just a guitar and a bass all in one. If u drop tuned the f# to low E u would have the range of a standard 4 bass plus a 6 string all rolled into one. That abasi guy uses a 8 string a basically plays chords and arpeggios while playing a complementary simultaneously bassline. Sounds like a lot of work to me. .
  13. Fergie Fulton

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    The extended range bass guitar is a myth.....i can't throw one any further than a standard one. ;)
  14. Nashrakh

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    Doesn't seem like such a bad idea to me if you're the centerpiece of a given song or playing solo. I've recently discovered the beauty of baritone guitars, opens up a whole new world. If one can achieve piano string clarity, I wouldn't mind going lower if you don't run into mud problems. But C# on an 8 string for example is like, what. Three half steps below standard bass tuning, that's not as low as it may seem. Low is what Jauqo does.

    That said I don't really see widespread use of ER guitars outside of experimental settings. ERB are a different beast though; personally a standard bass doesn't go low enough for me and guitar goes up too high (unfingered F# string on the baritone is the highest I find myself playing). Then again I wouldn't bring an ERB to a bar gig.
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    It just gives us more reason to play something else than the root in the lower registrer. Now you have a good reason to play melodies or nice arrangement in our high range.
  17. InsaneBassninja

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    That is how I determined it
  18. Epitaph04

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    As far as bass guitarists keep whining about it. :p
  19. ShredderMaximus

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    They are usually played without having their thumbs anchored on the back of the neck for easier reach to the lower strings. Or a lot of tapping.

    As for my (shallow) opinion, while I'd love to mess around on one, frankly I just find them dorky looking unless they are in the hands of a very large individual. I play a six and that's enough for me without looking like a dork in public. No offense to any erb players out there, chances are they are much more talented players than I.
  20. Hamlet7768

    Hamlet7768 Here to chew gum and rock. Still have gum. Supporting Member

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    You get more than 8 and the guitar is becoming a solo instrument. 8's my personal limit for sanity's sake. I do like the sounds Tosin Abasi and the fellows in Meshuggah get with their guitars, but in my music my band plays I doubt we would need more than 7.

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