I need some help with the Behringer BSY600 Bass Synth Wah

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  1. kidkolumbo

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    I just opened up the pedal and played with it. So far it is totally worth the money with one caveat. I can't stop the pedal from squawking. No matter how I set the decay, the resonance, and the frequency, there's still a loud thump every time the pedal picks up my playing. I'm not sure if it'll get picked up once I try it with my band in a couple weeks, but alone at home, it is barely noticeable at best and annoying at worst.

    Any suggestions? What causes this? Am I doomed to forever have that volume spike? If this explanation isn't adequate, I'll make some clips.
     
  2. kidkolumbo

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  3. Adamixoye

    Adamixoye A PT Pro is cool for worship, right? Supporting Member

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    I've noticed the same thing. Still exploring in terms of compression, position of the expression pedal (when attached), etc.
     
  4. kidkolumbo

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    Great. Be sure to share what you work out, I would be very appreciative :)
     
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  6. Syxz_ML

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    Bought a BSY600 few months back only because it was being sold so cheap ($15). I plugged it in by itself just to make sure it worked and messed with it somewhat and thought the same thing. I never went ahead and threw it on my pedalboard though. I always assumed i would just throw a compressor after it when i came around to using it. Your volume spikes seem alot more noticable then from what I remember. Are you using an active bass by any chance?
     
  7. kidkolumbo

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    Not a chance. I play a Squire PBass. Not all of the volume spikes are that bad. Some are worse, some are better. That was just the first favorite sound I found that showed the issue.
     
  8. avvie

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    This might be a real stretch here, but I'm gonna throw it out there because of some observations made from a filter pedal I have:
    I think what you may be experiencing is the "sonic boom" of a certain low frequency as the filter sweeps up when the note is hit. To make the explanation even more silly (but the only way I know to describe it in print), each time you attack the string the filter turns the note into a "dweeee" tone, and the frequency it sweeps past right in between the "d" and the "w" is one that rattles the speakers a bit and gives the impression of a volume spike. That's what I'm hearing, anyway.
     
  9. kidkolumbo

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    I'll take it. Any ways to stop it?
     
  10. Adamixoye

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    After playing around with it, it's definitely a sub-frequency. Maybe a high-pass filter after it is the solution?
     
  11. avvie

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    That sounds like a reasonable solution to me but I'm sure someone else here has some other options.
     
  12. kidkolumbo

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    Well, I'm buying a Digitech Bass Synth Wah to compliment my BSY600. It does have a filter on it. Maybe I just have to run both of them? Wouldn't that be silly.
     
  13. Adamixoye

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    The BSW filter won't do the "high pass" I was referring to.
     
  14. avvie

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    I'm also thinking that a limiter might be an answer but I'm not positive.
    Last night at practice I ran a dual compressor sim that has hi/low filters in it. It took the sub frequency out and left everything else pretty even. My speaker appreciated it. Before that I hadn't really noticed how erratic the dynamics of my playing was. I woild dare say that you have done me afavor by posting this thread, so mahalo!
     
  15. kidkolumbo

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    No problem, glad you fixed the problem. I don't have the gear too. I'll probably just use it for specific sounds then. I played my guitar through it though, and it sounds AMAZING. Layering the synth tone with the guitar tone makes for a great sound. I may keep it there, especially since I bought the Digitech Bass Synth Wah just now.

    Oh, and for future reference, Digitech Bass Synth Wah isn't better than the regular Synth Wah, just different. I A/B'd them both, and they behave differently and have different settings. I know this isn't the place, so I'll probably just make a separate post for it when I get my recording gear back.
     

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