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Idea to prevent saddle walk

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by GlennW, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. GlennW

    GlennW Supporting Member

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    I'd be surprised if this hasn't been done, but I had an idea and will do it soon.

    You know how the E saddle on a Fender style bridge can move away from the A saddle while playing with your fingers?

    Of course you do.

    After the intonation is set drill a hole through the bridge plate and install a pan head screw so the head will be against the outer saddle height adjustment screw.

    It'll walk no more.

    Same thing for the G if necessary.
  2. Joe Louvar

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    Hmm, I hope it doesn’t make any vibrating/rattling noise - please post the results, with pics if you can. Thanks
  3. Stilettoprefer

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    Or just use threaded saddles and spread the spacing a little wider.
  4. landau roof

    landau roof Reupholstered User Supporting Member

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    I would sooner just replace the bridge with one that has provisions to prevent the issue at hand.

    That said, I've never had problems w/ saddles shifting on a standard Fender bridge.
  5. ma4rk

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    Or you could play with a lighter touch :bag:
  6. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Gold Supporting Member

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    this;

    leo had this problem solved, knowledge apparently lost when CBS took over and went to the single-grooved saddles.
  7. GlennW

    GlennW Supporting Member

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    I use Fender bridges with threaded saddles. How is that, or increasing string spacing, going to prevent the saddle from moving when you're always pulling on the E string with your finger?

    I suppose shimming the neck + raising saddle height would increase the pressure some, but I don't know if it would be enough.
  8. walterw

    walterw Supportive Fender Gold Supporting Member

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    by having the strings spread a little wider than the saddle spacing (to line up with jazz pickups, say) the outer strings pull in towards the inner ones, pressing all the saddles together and eliminating the sliding around (and maybe improving tone and sustain, too).

    american standard jazz, but the same principle applies:

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  9. Zooberwerx

    Zooberwerx Gold Supporting Member

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    Wile E. Coyote.....Genius!!

    Riis
  10. MrLenny1

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    I vote for replacing the bridge.
  11. mongo2

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    Exactly. Leo fixed this in 1957.
  12. Turnaround

    Turnaround

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    C'mon folks, it's been over 50 years. Can we not pick up the pace a little?
  13. eddododo

    eddododo Supporting Member

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    My god, did shimming the neck honestly come up here?
    Shimming the neck is the meth of talkbass
  14. iiipopes

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    +1
  15. NYCbassist

    NYCbassist Supporting Member

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    Never had this problem and I dig in hard almost always. The simple fix though is to install one Zip tie to lock the saddles together
  16. GlennW

    GlennW Supporting Member

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    There's no mething around about it.

    Shimming the neck + raising the saddles = increased break angle

    Increased break angle = more pressure on the saddle height screws

    More pressure on the saddle height screws = more resistance to saddle walk
  17. GlennW

    GlennW Supporting Member

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    A pic is worth 1,000 words and I see what you're saying, but I like 2 1/4" string spacing.

    I've had some basses that came with 2 3/8" string spacing, and the G felt like it was in the next county.

    I like the Zip Tie suggestion, might try that first.

    Edit: What's the best zip tie for metal?
  18. NYCbassist

    NYCbassist Supporting Member

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    Either black or clear would look okay But...... They now make stainless steel Zip ties too. I have seen people lock the strings together just behind the saddles. Bigger Walmarts carry the stainless and a selection of neon ones.
  19. GlennW

    GlennW Supporting Member

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    Thanks a lot. That's what I'll do.

    I'd thought of using a piece of 20+/- awg wire and tying a knot in it, but figured it'd be iffy at best.

    I'm hip to the zip. :bassist:
  20. NYCbassist

    NYCbassist Supporting Member

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    Cool, I have also seen people zip the strings by the nut to control the A string buzz. But.... a good 4 wraps on the A string post fixes it for me. Right down to the headstock if you know what I mean. ;) As a Trucker, I use Zip's for ton's of things especially for emergency repairs. I always keep some in my Bass case too. We hang our band banner with them too. :D

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