Initial Review - 16x5" Dayton drivers Cabinet.

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  1. mlwarriner

    mlwarriner Supporting Member

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    Wow. This thing is more awesome than words I'm allowed to use here will tell you.

    OK, a more thorough, in-depth review.

    I dragged the BurdiWarriner 16x5 PMPJ (Poor Man's Phil Jones) cabinet out to practice today. Was thinking it'd be a full-on practice, but the drummer is still in Vegas, and the singer just didn't show up. So it was me and the regular guitarist training up our new second guitarist on the material.

    Ahh well.

    Plugged everything in, turned on and tuned up. I left my GK head set the same as I'd had it for the last gig we played (no PA support for anything but vox). So it was up fairly loud, but not insane.

    Kicked off the mute switch and started noodling. Damn. Loud loud loud. With the GK at about 11:00 on volume, drive and woofer, this thing was brutally loud. As in, "can't stand within 5 feet" loud.

    I'll admit, I was a little skeptical at first (and even up until today) about drivers this small being able to go this low...

    ok. here's more.

    i don't play a low-b bass, but my band does play in drop-c tuning (CGCF on my ESP, CGCFA on the MTD)

    This cab goes deeper, easier, louder and fuller than my GK 4x10, 1x15 stack did. By far. It seems to be pretty even-responding all the way across the soundrange of my basses, from the lowest of the low to waaaaay up on the skinny strings. I did have to do some fiddling with the settings on the GK, but that was something I needed to do anyhow. I wasn't quite happy with the way it sounded before.

    These 5" drivers are awesome. The lows were clear and not muddy, the highs were clean without being brittle or shrill. It plays very nice with my pedal board (Gutter-modded TS9 clone, headrush, boss bass flanger and digitech bass chorus).

    And I seriously had to back way down on the output volume of my head. Especially with the ESP (that's a damned hot bass now...).

    I would easily stack this up against any Ampeg 8x10 I've ever played on, and pretty much any other cabs I've ever used. It blows the **** out of anything else I can remember owning, ever.


    Burdi - you designed a winner. We came in somewhere around $400 total in the end, and if I had even the slightest need, I'd order another one today.

    fo' rizzle.
  2. Trevorus

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    Pics???

    And how much does it weigh?
  3. mlwarriner

    mlwarriner Supporting Member

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    pics in this thread:

    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=414959


    size - 3'x2'x1.5', weight - about 90 pounds.

    balls - more than any ampeg fridge i've ever played. or anything else i've ever played for that matter, and i've played nearly as much gear as tombowlus.
  4. Crockettnj

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    :eyebrow:
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  6. coolrunner989

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    wow - thats awesome. I might be interested in building one this summer...
  7. James Hart

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    I've noticed his buying/trying/flipping tread of the last couple years... I believe the statement stands :D

    I'd love to hear the cab in person!
  8. lo-freq

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    Very interesting!!!

    I'm thinking an 8x7" (using the Dayton 7"er's here) wired to be a 4ohm cab, would be very cool -- they'd go plenty low (in the right cab) and up to 10kHz, plenty high for me.
  9. fdeck

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    Speakers with odd numbered diameters don't work.



    :D
  10. evito

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    Because........?
  11. fdeck

    fdeck Supporting Member

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    Just kidding.
  12. evito

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    Now I look like a tool :(
  13. mlwarriner

    mlwarriner Supporting Member

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    since Valentine's Day, 2005 (the day i got home from Baghdad, and a nice remembering point), I've been through about 15 different rig configurations and easily 20 or more basses. While I don't OWN as much gear as tom (I can't afford to keep it all), I have probably OWNED about as much :D:D
  14. mlwarriner

    mlwarriner Supporting Member

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    the broadness of the response on these things is amazing, seriously. i never thought i'd see drivers this small go this low, but...

    well...


    yeah.
  15. mlwarriner

    mlwarriner Supporting Member

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    here's the latest picture. since this, i have added casters is the only change so far.

    [​IMG]


    i really need to get a grille made up for this beast.
  16. Crockettnj

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    15 rigs, 20 basses. Unreal. You are a rig fiend! Power to you for that.

    Your 16x5 is exceptionally cool... I am a huge fan of DIY.

    I can see the next couple iterations of this coming down the 'pike...
    Dual neo 8x7's in a 2x4 configuration.
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    anyway, very cool thread.
  17. 24stringbass

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    Geez, don't slay the Ampeg-fridges before I get to gig w/ my
    '73 'Peg 8x10 restoration project! Yet I am intrigued by 5's...
  18. lo-freq

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    Pretty cool!!
  19. mlwarriner

    mlwarriner Supporting Member

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    i'm just a gear whore man. i have, seriously, flipped basses that i hadn't even received yet - as in, i traded my bass XX for someone else's bass YY, and then traded bass YY to someone else for bass ZZ before YY even made it to me.

    yup.

    i'm a whore.

    but it's ok, because i'm cool with it. there's a ton of basses and rigs i'd own if i had the finances to do it. i'd love to have my mesa 400+ again, as well as my GBE1200, but they're gone in favor of my 1001RB. for now. in a couple of days/weeks/months, maybe it'll be gone too...who knows?
  20. Horny Toad

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    Oh yeah? Well I'm lazy. How much for you to build me a 16x5? :D
  21. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good

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    Very nice job! Glad to hear that this project worked out so well for you. :)

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